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The result was Delete. Michig ( talk) 06:25, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Frank P. Savoy Jr
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Non-notable person, they founded a non-notable hospital, but fail WP:GNG and WP:BIO. In addition, this bio is pretty promotional too- I've tried cleaning it up, but it's still promotional, and the COI editor keeps trying to repromotionalise it. Joseph2302 ( talk) 01:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - No evidence of notability, founding a small hospital in a small town is not enough to make someone notable. Fyddlestix ( talk) 01:38, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
-- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)There is plenty of evidence of notability.The article is not promotional nor do I have a bias towards the subject because of my profile name. If it would help,I could easily make a new page with another account so the name would be different as I do not want there to be a COI issue. I was also not aware that I was deleting and re editing some of the changes that have been made by you guys.Once again,I apologize and am trying very hard to be compliant. -- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)Also,I can understand that my article needs more citations for a verification but "Article is written like an advertisement",really?I would appreciate it if you guys would allow me to make my own edits to my own article and after I'm done you can tell me exactly what needs to be fixed and taken out because after the previous deletions from "Savoy Medical Center" and "Savoy Memorial Hospital",the article was nearly unrecognizable.You guys might not think so but to the people of Evangeline Parish and all of Louisiana. I'm not blowing the claims about the subject out of proportion either. Bare with me,it took me along time to make that article. -- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:39, 30 May 2015 (UTC)and just because you weren't able to find any "notable" evidence of high notoriety online doesn't mean that the subject isn't a notable person.Just ask any person from Evangeline Parish or St.Landry Parish.Not that you can anyway.Just hear me out,listen to where I'm coming from.Please take some time to rethink your claims and the deletion notices that are on my article.Please do not take action to delete it,please.Thank you.
- Savoy209, the article isn't "[your] own article" it is Wikipedia's article one you click submit, and anyone and everyone is free to edit it. I posted some samples of what I considered promotional languge on the talk page when I applied the "advert" tag.If you can provide published reliable sources about Dr Savoy, please do so. This discussion will be open for at elast 7 days, and offline sources such as newspapers are acceptable. "Ask any person" is not helpful, however. DES (talk) 02:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Move to draft namespace, and allow improvement there, via WP:AFC. There may be a valid and useful article hidden here, if additional sources can be found and the test improved. But it isn't yet visible. DES (talk) 02:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ok ,now that I know that offline sources are reliable I will provide them.Within the next 4 days I will add images and photos too once my account is confirmed --
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- Savoy209, Do please read our guideline on reliable sources to better understand what sort of sources are considered reliable. On images, please remember that they should be in the public domain or released under a compaltely free license. Well some are used under fair use, but Wikipedias conditions for that are tight. In any case, images don't do much to establish notability, published text sources are usually more important. DES (talk) 06:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I have no opinion as to whether this article should be deleted. However, if it is kept it will need to be moved to Frank P. Savoy Jr. per MOS:TITLE and MOS:CREDENTIAL, honorific and professional credentials should not be included in the title or body of the article before the subjects name. You can, however, discuss these credentials within the article. - War wizard90 ( talk) 04:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- I agree, I would have moved it, but it's not worth moving it if it's going to get deleted. Joseph2302 ( talk) 10:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete Neither his activities nor the sources rise to the level to establish notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:44, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails GNG. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails GNG. I just plugged it in to the mighty Newspapers.com search engine, targeting Louisiana. Got nothin'... Carrite ( talk) 04:37, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. Michig ( talk) 06:25, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Frank P. Savoy Jr
- Dr. Frank P. Savoy Jr ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-notable person, they founded a non-notable hospital, but fail WP:GNG and WP:BIO. In addition, this bio is pretty promotional too- I've tried cleaning it up, but it's still promotional, and the COI editor keeps trying to repromotionalise it. Joseph2302 ( talk) 01:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - No evidence of notability, founding a small hospital in a small town is not enough to make someone notable. Fyddlestix ( talk) 01:38, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
-- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)There is plenty of evidence of notability.The article is not promotional nor do I have a bias towards the subject because of my profile name. If it would help,I could easily make a new page with another account so the name would be different as I do not want there to be a COI issue. I was also not aware that I was deleting and re editing some of the changes that have been made by you guys.Once again,I apologize and am trying very hard to be compliant. -- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)Also,I can understand that my article needs more citations for a verification but "Article is written like an advertisement",really?I would appreciate it if you guys would allow me to make my own edits to my own article and after I'm done you can tell me exactly what needs to be fixed and taken out because after the previous deletions from "Savoy Medical Center" and "Savoy Memorial Hospital",the article was nearly unrecognizable.You guys might not think so but to the people of Evangeline Parish and all of Louisiana. I'm not blowing the claims about the subject out of proportion either. Bare with me,it took me along time to make that article. -- Savoy209 ( talk) 02:39, 30 May 2015 (UTC)and just because you weren't able to find any "notable" evidence of high notoriety online doesn't mean that the subject isn't a notable person.Just ask any person from Evangeline Parish or St.Landry Parish.Not that you can anyway.Just hear me out,listen to where I'm coming from.Please take some time to rethink your claims and the deletion notices that are on my article.Please do not take action to delete it,please.Thank you.
- Savoy209, the article isn't "[your] own article" it is Wikipedia's article one you click submit, and anyone and everyone is free to edit it. I posted some samples of what I considered promotional languge on the talk page when I applied the "advert" tag.If you can provide published reliable sources about Dr Savoy, please do so. This discussion will be open for at elast 7 days, and offline sources such as newspapers are acceptable. "Ask any person" is not helpful, however. DES (talk) 02:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Move to draft namespace, and allow improvement there, via WP:AFC. There may be a valid and useful article hidden here, if additional sources can be found and the test improved. But it isn't yet visible. DES (talk) 02:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ok ,now that I know that offline sources are reliable I will provide them.Within the next 4 days I will add images and photos too once my account is confirmed --
Savoy209 (
talk) 02:51, 30 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Savoy209 (
talk •
contribs) 02:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Savoy209, Do please read our guideline on reliable sources to better understand what sort of sources are considered reliable. On images, please remember that they should be in the public domain or released under a compaltely free license. Well some are used under fair use, but Wikipedias conditions for that are tight. In any case, images don't do much to establish notability, published text sources are usually more important. DES (talk) 06:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I have no opinion as to whether this article should be deleted. However, if it is kept it will need to be moved to Frank P. Savoy Jr. per MOS:TITLE and MOS:CREDENTIAL, honorific and professional credentials should not be included in the title or body of the article before the subjects name. You can, however, discuss these credentials within the article. - War wizard90 ( talk) 04:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- I agree, I would have moved it, but it's not worth moving it if it's going to get deleted. Joseph2302 ( talk) 10:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:07, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Neither his activities nor the sources rise to the level to establish notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:44, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails GNG. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails GNG. I just plugged it in to the mighty Newspapers.com search engine, targeting Louisiana. Got nothin'... Carrite ( talk) 04:37, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.