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The result was no consensus. This is an AFD where more participation would have led to a more decisive closure. Liz Read! Talk! 22:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex
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Almost every source used here is a press release, zero indepth third-party coverage. Interviews with the chairman and "hey we opened this factory here" do not make a notable article. Sohom ( talk) 14:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, India, and Gujarat. Sohom ( talk) 14:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: The Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex is a significant development in the renewable energy sector in India and deserves a place on Wikipedia. There is substantial coverage from reliable sources, as per preliminary WP:BEFORE, by the following Google search
[1] and scholarly articles
[2]. While the primary sources for this topic may include press releases and official statements, it is not unusual for emerging and mega projects. It's essential to recognize that press releases and statements from relevant authorities, such as the chairman, are often the initial and most reliable sources of information for projects of this nature, especially in the early stages of development. There are several other upcoming mega projects, such as the
Gigafactory Mexico and Additionally, there have been multiple updates on this project
[3]
[4], and Reliance has made significant acquisitions in advanced energy storage batteries, electrolysers, and fuel cells. They have also secured deals worth Rs 9,300 crore with firms like Ambri, REC Solar, Sterling & Wilson Solar, NexWafe, and Stiesdal A/S in the past four months
[5], all of which provide valuable information that chould be included in the article. This topic should be considered worthy of inclusion and the keep status should be maintained. Additionally, the nominator should be encouraged to conduct
WP:BEFORE in the future to ensure the adequacy of sources before initiating deletion nominations. DSP2092 (
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06:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to point out that I resent your blatant accusation that I did not conduct a BEFORE and I would urge you to retract that accusation immediately. - Coming to sourcing, as far as I can see, this Google scholar search contains papers that only contain a fleeting mention of the "giga factory" failing the in-depth, in this TOI article there is only two sentences devoted in the entire article to this complex (fails in depth), the DNA article has one line dedicated to the complex in question (fails in depth) and the IndiaToday article is written in a hagiographical style praising the founder of the company (with a grand total of two lines dedicated to the complex), and I have serious doubts on the validity of the claims (fails in depth and reliable). Overall, the sources that you have given fail to show that there has been in-depth coverage by reliable sources. If you can show me 3 reliable sources that discuss specifically this complex in detail (i.e. dedicate the whole article to covering the complex only) I will be happy to withdraw my nomination.
- In addition to that, pointing to other articles saying that if they exists, this should as well, is considered an argument that should be avoided in deletion discussions. Regards, Sohom ( talk) 06:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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DSP2092 -
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 23:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. This is an AFD where more participation would have led to a more decisive closure. Liz Read! Talk! 22:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex
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- Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Almost every source used here is a press release, zero indepth third-party coverage. Interviews with the chairman and "hey we opened this factory here" do not make a notable article. Sohom ( talk) 14:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, India, and Gujarat. Sohom ( talk) 14:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: The Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex is a significant development in the renewable energy sector in India and deserves a place on Wikipedia. There is substantial coverage from reliable sources, as per preliminary WP:BEFORE, by the following Google search
[1] and scholarly articles
[2]. While the primary sources for this topic may include press releases and official statements, it is not unusual for emerging and mega projects. It's essential to recognize that press releases and statements from relevant authorities, such as the chairman, are often the initial and most reliable sources of information for projects of this nature, especially in the early stages of development. There are several other upcoming mega projects, such as the
Gigafactory Mexico and Additionally, there have been multiple updates on this project
[3]
[4], and Reliance has made significant acquisitions in advanced energy storage batteries, electrolysers, and fuel cells. They have also secured deals worth Rs 9,300 crore with firms like Ambri, REC Solar, Sterling & Wilson Solar, NexWafe, and Stiesdal A/S in the past four months
[5], all of which provide valuable information that chould be included in the article. This topic should be considered worthy of inclusion and the keep status should be maintained. Additionally, the nominator should be encouraged to conduct
WP:BEFORE in the future to ensure the adequacy of sources before initiating deletion nominations. DSP2092 (
👤,
🗨️)
06:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
DSP2092 -
I would like to point out that I resent your blatant accusation that I did not conduct a BEFORE and I would urge you to retract that accusation immediately. - Coming to sourcing, as far as I can see, this Google scholar search contains papers that only contain a fleeting mention of the "giga factory" failing the in-depth, in this TOI article there is only two sentences devoted in the entire article to this complex (fails in depth), the DNA article has one line dedicated to the complex in question (fails in depth) and the IndiaToday article is written in a hagiographical style praising the founder of the company (with a grand total of two lines dedicated to the complex), and I have serious doubts on the validity of the claims (fails in depth and reliable). Overall, the sources that you have given fail to show that there has been in-depth coverage by reliable sources. If you can show me 3 reliable sources that discuss specifically this complex in detail (i.e. dedicate the whole article to covering the complex only) I will be happy to withdraw my nomination.
- In addition to that, pointing to other articles saying that if they exists, this should as well, is considered an argument that should be avoided in deletion discussions. Regards, Sohom ( talk) 06:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
DSP2092 -
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 23:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.