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The result was no consensus. My non-binding suggestion is to let this rest for a few weeks, see if the name issue can be resolved and then decide if renomination is warranted. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 02:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Davaasambuugiin Delgernyam
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While in his specialty he is very accomplished, that does not meet WP:NBASKET, and not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 14:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Mongolia. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still needs some feedback, no discussion's occurred yet...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lord Roem ~ ( talk) 17:44, 29 December 2022 (UTC)- Weak delete I don't find any sources, in English and I'm not sure what's showing up in Mongolian using Gtranslate, RS-wise. The sources given just confirm he's played basketball. I would prefer if a Mongolian-language speaker could do a source review. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can't soft-delete so final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 21:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)- Weak keep He is an Asian Champion in an Olympic sport, that sounds notable to me. I think he is a well known athlete in 3x3 circuit. but yes I understand if 3x3 itself doesn't get lots of coverage and lots of people don't consider 3x3 basketballers notable and they have a good point. and by the way if you google him as D. Delgernyam more Mongolian articles about him show up. but please don't redirect the article to his club or his national team. that's totally irrelevant to me. keep it or delete it. Sports2021 ( talk) 01:15, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: the lack of sources is probably because the name is incorrect. The actual name is Davaasambuu Delgernyam, not Davaasambuugiin (cross-referenced with date of birth and FIBA records). The correct name in Cyrillic comes up with decent number of hits, both officially and popular. Vote to redirect to correct name and then let the good referencers go at it. Kazamzam ( talk) 21:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Mongolia men's national 3x3 team. A redirect works since the consensus isnt very strong.
`~HelpingWorld~`
(👽🛸)
12:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Actually I disagree only with this solution, I can't understand the point of redirecting an athlete's page to his team/club. I think if someone is not notable enough to have a page in wikipedia, it should be a red link.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redlinks are only for subjects which are notable, but the article has not been written yet. So if this article is not kept, it shouldn't be a redlink anywhere.
Onel5969
TT me
23:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's irrelevant to what I am trying to say. (probably my fault) I mean if you redirect an article it will appear as blue link. it sometimes misguides people that the person in blue link is notable enough to have a page. I'm only against the redirect, not the deletion.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, yeah, didn't get your drift. Onel5969 TT me 01:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's irrelevant to what I am trying to say. (probably my fault) I mean if you redirect an article it will appear as blue link. it sometimes misguides people that the person in blue link is notable enough to have a page. I'm only against the redirect, not the deletion.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redlinks are only for subjects which are notable, but the article has not been written yet. So if this article is not kept, it shouldn't be a redlink anywhere.
Onel5969
TT me
23:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Actually I disagree only with this solution, I can't understand the point of redirecting an athlete's page to his team/club. I think if someone is not notable enough to have a page in wikipedia, it should be a red link.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. My non-binding suggestion is to let this rest for a few weeks, see if the name issue can be resolved and then decide if renomination is warranted. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 02:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Davaasambuugiin Delgernyam
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While in his specialty he is very accomplished, that does not meet WP:NBASKET, and not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 14:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 14:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Mongolia. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previously nominated via WP:PROD, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still needs some feedback, no discussion's occurred yet...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lord Roem ~ ( talk) 17:44, 29 December 2022 (UTC)- Weak delete I don't find any sources, in English and I'm not sure what's showing up in Mongolian using Gtranslate, RS-wise. The sources given just confirm he's played basketball. I would prefer if a Mongolian-language speaker could do a source review. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can't soft-delete so final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 21:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)- Weak keep He is an Asian Champion in an Olympic sport, that sounds notable to me. I think he is a well known athlete in 3x3 circuit. but yes I understand if 3x3 itself doesn't get lots of coverage and lots of people don't consider 3x3 basketballers notable and they have a good point. and by the way if you google him as D. Delgernyam more Mongolian articles about him show up. but please don't redirect the article to his club or his national team. that's totally irrelevant to me. keep it or delete it. Sports2021 ( talk) 01:15, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: the lack of sources is probably because the name is incorrect. The actual name is Davaasambuu Delgernyam, not Davaasambuugiin (cross-referenced with date of birth and FIBA records). The correct name in Cyrillic comes up with decent number of hits, both officially and popular. Vote to redirect to correct name and then let the good referencers go at it. Kazamzam ( talk) 21:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Mongolia men's national 3x3 team. A redirect works since the consensus isnt very strong.
`~HelpingWorld~`
(👽🛸)
12:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Actually I disagree only with this solution, I can't understand the point of redirecting an athlete's page to his team/club. I think if someone is not notable enough to have a page in wikipedia, it should be a red link.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redlinks are only for subjects which are notable, but the article has not been written yet. So if this article is not kept, it shouldn't be a redlink anywhere.
Onel5969
TT me
23:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's irrelevant to what I am trying to say. (probably my fault) I mean if you redirect an article it will appear as blue link. it sometimes misguides people that the person in blue link is notable enough to have a page. I'm only against the redirect, not the deletion.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, yeah, didn't get your drift. Onel5969 TT me 01:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's irrelevant to what I am trying to say. (probably my fault) I mean if you redirect an article it will appear as blue link. it sometimes misguides people that the person in blue link is notable enough to have a page. I'm only against the redirect, not the deletion.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Redlinks are only for subjects which are notable, but the article has not been written yet. So if this article is not kept, it shouldn't be a redlink anywhere.
Onel5969
TT me
23:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Actually I disagree only with this solution, I can't understand the point of redirecting an athlete's page to his team/club. I think if someone is not notable enough to have a page in wikipedia, it should be a red link.
Sports2021 (
talk)
23:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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