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The result was no consensus on whether he was reasonably prominent member of past groups.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 09:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Sources do not indicate notability. Onel5969 ( talk) 17:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 18:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: References are all to directories, home pages, and other unreliable sources. Excessive number of external links smacks of self-promotion. ubiquity ( talk) 18:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails Wikipedia:Notability (people) no significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources, which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other and independent of the subject. Theroadislong ( talk) 19:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep He meets our notability guideline for musicians which states that "a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles" qualifies for an article. Fury has been a member of at least four notable bands during his career. I have wikilinked to those bands in the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't see "reasonably prominent" . can you elaborate? He is only mentioned as a "past member" in The Lords of the New Church and The Dogs D'Amour with none of the text about members cycling in and out even mentioning when he was a member. Sham 69 shows him as a member for 1 year after the breakup and output of any notable materials. He was with Vain (band) for only 1 album.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Theroadislong ( talk) 08:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Reply That is the case for musicians who have been members of one notable band. When a musician has been a member of multiple notable bands, as in this case, there is no logical redirect target and an article such as this one is appropriate per the notability guideline. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep. Per Wikipedia:Notability (music) ; member of multiple notable bands. Neither the nomination nor the delete !votes address this. Epeefleche ( talk) 19:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - nothing in the sources, as was stated in the delete comment, gives any indication of notability. There is no indication he was "a reasonably prominent member" of any of the bands in the article. Onel5969 ( talk) 02:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. He's a significant enough member of a number of notable bands that he is at least a valid search term for those bands, and this article does the job of directing the reader to the articles on those bands. None of the arguments for deletion deal with the fact that he is a valid search term and if he was a member of only one of these bands would be at least a redirect. As a member of multiple bands a short article with links to them is the best approach for the reader. -- Michig ( talk) 07:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep WP:MUSICBIO states, "a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles" which he appears to clearly satisfy. Some fairly big heavyweights (like Michig) that have had a lot to do with the shaping of WP:NMUSIC proposing keep. Mkdw talk 08:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus on whether he was reasonably prominent member of past groups.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 09:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Danny Fury ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Sources do not indicate notability. Onel5969 ( talk) 17:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 18:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: References are all to directories, home pages, and other unreliable sources. Excessive number of external links smacks of self-promotion. ubiquity ( talk) 18:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails Wikipedia:Notability (people) no significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources, which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other and independent of the subject. Theroadislong ( talk) 19:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep He meets our notability guideline for musicians which states that "a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles" qualifies for an article. Fury has been a member of at least four notable bands during his career. I have wikilinked to those bands in the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't see "reasonably prominent" . can you elaborate? He is only mentioned as a "past member" in The Lords of the New Church and The Dogs D'Amour with none of the text about members cycling in and out even mentioning when he was a member. Sham 69 shows him as a member for 1 year after the breakup and output of any notable materials. He was with Vain (band) for only 1 album.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Theroadislong ( talk) 08:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Reply That is the case for musicians who have been members of one notable band. When a musician has been a member of multiple notable bands, as in this case, there is no logical redirect target and an article such as this one is appropriate per the notability guideline. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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Administrator note related Draft by same author Speedy Deleted via
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Danny Fury. —
xaosflux
Talk
03:47, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:06, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:06, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Per Wikipedia:Notability (music) ; member of multiple notable bands. Neither the nomination nor the delete !votes address this. Epeefleche ( talk) 19:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - nothing in the sources, as was stated in the delete comment, gives any indication of notability. There is no indication he was "a reasonably prominent member" of any of the bands in the article. Onel5969 ( talk) 02:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. He's a significant enough member of a number of notable bands that he is at least a valid search term for those bands, and this article does the job of directing the reader to the articles on those bands. None of the arguments for deletion deal with the fact that he is a valid search term and if he was a member of only one of these bands would be at least a redirect. As a member of multiple bands a short article with links to them is the best approach for the reader. -- Michig ( talk) 07:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Keep WP:MUSICBIO states, "a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles" which he appears to clearly satisfy. Some fairly big heavyweights (like Michig) that have had a lot to do with the shaping of WP:NMUSIC proposing keep. Mkdw talk 08:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.