- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Strong consensus that the subject passes GNG which is the basis for determining notability. Ad Orientem ( talk) 01:25, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Dalton Crossan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Contested PROD Tag. Subject fails WP:NGRIDIRON and WP:GNG, in addition the article is largely copied from his Colts Bio with earwig ranking a violation as 94 percent likely. Church Talk 19:32, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. If he actually plays in the NFL, the article can be recreated at that time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:20, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Draftify or delete It needs a rewrite but this is in that really tricky grey area where he's on the active roster now - not the reserve roster. He may also be notable: there have been ESPN blogs on him and his lacrosse career [1] along as the subject of some routine news articles [2] These are always tricky, since there's a good chance he'll never play a NFL game, but there's also a decent chance he will. I'd lean keep since he is on the active roster, but possibly best to drafify or just delete entirely for now since it needs a complete rewrite. SportingFlyer ( talk) 07:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The WP:COPYVIO has been removed, and regardless of whether Crossan ever plays in an NFL game, he passes WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple, reliable, and independent sources. Coverage includes: (1) ESPN profile referenced by SportingFlyer ( here); (2) "Dalton Crossan the next Chris Hogan? Or maybe even better?", Pro Football Weekly, 4/10/17, 887 words (appears to be a duplicate of the ESPN profile); (3) " This former UNH star isn’t into Chris Hogan comparisons. He just wants to make the NFL", The Boston Globe, 2/26/17 (full story requires subscription); (4) " Dalton Crossan agrees to sign with Indianapolis Colts after going undrafted", Newsday, 4/29/17; (5) " Could Dalton Crossan be the next Chris Hogan?", Fox Sports, 6/30/17(6) " The Next Julian Edelman? NFL Hopeful Dalton Crossan Sees Himself In Patriots Star", New England Sports Network, 4/7/17; (7) " From multi-sport athlete, Dalton Crossan morphs into all-purpose football star", American Sports Network, 10/14/16; (8) "49ers worked out New Hampshire RB Dalton Crossan", Pro Football Weekly, 4/9/17 (495 words); (9) "Crossan back to lead ground game", New Hampshire Union Leader, 4/27/16; (10) " Playmaker Crossan wants the ball in his hands", Foster's Daily Democrat, 8/14/15 (890 words); (11) " Crossan gives Wildcats another playmaker", Foster's Daily Democrat, 12/11/14 (743 words); (12) "Versatile Crossan comes up big for the Wildcats", Foster's Daily Democrat, 10/25/13; (13) "Versatile Crossan comes up big for the Wildcats", Foster's Daily Democrat, 10/25/13, 771 words; (13) " Sachem's Dalton Crossan To NFL's Colts", Sachem Report, 4/29/17 (significant coverage, but source probably not reliable); and (14) " UNH’s Crossan has eyes on Patriots as draft approaches", Concord Monitor, 4/7/17. Cbl62 ( talk) 12:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Cbl62. Passes GNG. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 21:26, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep looks like more than enough to pass WP:GNG already.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 18:46, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. He appears to pass WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 11:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete has not even played in 1 professional game. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 05:47, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- True, but the basis for notability here is
WP:GNG, not
WP:NGRIDIRON.
Cbl62 (
talk)
06:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is a large number of players who never saw the field in the NFL that would pass GNG. I'm seeing to see the usual coverage from his college area (NH), places where he works out, and teams he has signed for. People with potential to make NFL, will definitely get coverage during college and around the Draft. NFL signings will always get coverage each time, and he has been signed to two teams now. With cases like these, I think drafts are better until they pass NGRIDIRON.
WikiVirus
C
(talk)
21:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- It is possible for an individual to gain notability based on their college career alone. There is more than one path to notability.--
Paul McDonald (
talk)
22:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, but I don't see any indication of his college career having done that, or I wouldn't have called it the usual coverage for him. WikiVirus C (talk) 23:06, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- It is possible for an individual to gain notability based on their college career alone. There is more than one path to notability.--
Paul McDonald (
talk)
22:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is a large number of players who never saw the field in the NFL that would pass GNG. I'm seeing to see the usual coverage from his college area (NH), places where he works out, and teams he has signed for. People with potential to make NFL, will definitely get coverage during college and around the Draft. NFL signings will always get coverage each time, and he has been signed to two teams now. With cases like these, I think drafts are better until they pass NGRIDIRON.
WikiVirus
C
(talk)
21:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- True, but the basis for notability here is
WP:GNG, not
WP:NGRIDIRON.
Cbl62 (
talk)
06:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep looks like it passes GNG and WP:BASIC, even if WP:WP:NGRIDIRON does not really apply. L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 23:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Strong consensus that the subject passes GNG which is the basis for determining notability. Ad Orientem ( talk) 01:25, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Dalton Crossan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Contested PROD Tag. Subject fails WP:NGRIDIRON and WP:GNG, in addition the article is largely copied from his Colts Bio with earwig ranking a violation as 94 percent likely. Church Talk 19:32, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 19:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. If he actually plays in the NFL, the article can be recreated at that time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:20, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Draftify or delete It needs a rewrite but this is in that really tricky grey area where he's on the active roster now - not the reserve roster. He may also be notable: there have been ESPN blogs on him and his lacrosse career [1] along as the subject of some routine news articles [2] These are always tricky, since there's a good chance he'll never play a NFL game, but there's also a decent chance he will. I'd lean keep since he is on the active roster, but possibly best to drafify or just delete entirely for now since it needs a complete rewrite. SportingFlyer ( talk) 07:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The WP:COPYVIO has been removed, and regardless of whether Crossan ever plays in an NFL game, he passes WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple, reliable, and independent sources. Coverage includes: (1) ESPN profile referenced by SportingFlyer ( here); (2) "Dalton Crossan the next Chris Hogan? Or maybe even better?", Pro Football Weekly, 4/10/17, 887 words (appears to be a duplicate of the ESPN profile); (3) " This former UNH star isn’t into Chris Hogan comparisons. He just wants to make the NFL", The Boston Globe, 2/26/17 (full story requires subscription); (4) " Dalton Crossan agrees to sign with Indianapolis Colts after going undrafted", Newsday, 4/29/17; (5) " Could Dalton Crossan be the next Chris Hogan?", Fox Sports, 6/30/17(6) " The Next Julian Edelman? NFL Hopeful Dalton Crossan Sees Himself In Patriots Star", New England Sports Network, 4/7/17; (7) " From multi-sport athlete, Dalton Crossan morphs into all-purpose football star", American Sports Network, 10/14/16; (8) "49ers worked out New Hampshire RB Dalton Crossan", Pro Football Weekly, 4/9/17 (495 words); (9) "Crossan back to lead ground game", New Hampshire Union Leader, 4/27/16; (10) " Playmaker Crossan wants the ball in his hands", Foster's Daily Democrat, 8/14/15 (890 words); (11) " Crossan gives Wildcats another playmaker", Foster's Daily Democrat, 12/11/14 (743 words); (12) "Versatile Crossan comes up big for the Wildcats", Foster's Daily Democrat, 10/25/13; (13) "Versatile Crossan comes up big for the Wildcats", Foster's Daily Democrat, 10/25/13, 771 words; (13) " Sachem's Dalton Crossan To NFL's Colts", Sachem Report, 4/29/17 (significant coverage, but source probably not reliable); and (14) " UNH’s Crossan has eyes on Patriots as draft approaches", Concord Monitor, 4/7/17. Cbl62 ( talk) 12:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Cbl62. Passes GNG. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 21:26, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep looks like more than enough to pass WP:GNG already.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 18:46, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. He appears to pass WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Cbl62's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 11:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete has not even played in 1 professional game. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 05:47, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- True, but the basis for notability here is
WP:GNG, not
WP:NGRIDIRON.
Cbl62 (
talk)
06:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is a large number of players who never saw the field in the NFL that would pass GNG. I'm seeing to see the usual coverage from his college area (NH), places where he works out, and teams he has signed for. People with potential to make NFL, will definitely get coverage during college and around the Draft. NFL signings will always get coverage each time, and he has been signed to two teams now. With cases like these, I think drafts are better until they pass NGRIDIRON.
WikiVirus
C
(talk)
21:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- It is possible for an individual to gain notability based on their college career alone. There is more than one path to notability.--
Paul McDonald (
talk)
22:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, but I don't see any indication of his college career having done that, or I wouldn't have called it the usual coverage for him. WikiVirus C (talk) 23:06, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- It is possible for an individual to gain notability based on their college career alone. There is more than one path to notability.--
Paul McDonald (
talk)
22:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is a large number of players who never saw the field in the NFL that would pass GNG. I'm seeing to see the usual coverage from his college area (NH), places where he works out, and teams he has signed for. People with potential to make NFL, will definitely get coverage during college and around the Draft. NFL signings will always get coverage each time, and he has been signed to two teams now. With cases like these, I think drafts are better until they pass NGRIDIRON.
WikiVirus
C
(talk)
21:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- True, but the basis for notability here is
WP:GNG, not
WP:NGRIDIRON.
Cbl62 (
talk)
06:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep looks like it passes GNG and WP:BASIC, even if WP:WP:NGRIDIRON does not really apply. L293D ( ☎ • ✎) 23:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.