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The result was redirect to Ralph Bates. Per Deb ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 19:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Daisy Bates (actress)
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Non notable actress, All sources point to Daisy Bates (civil rights activist) however searching "Daisy Bates actress" brings up one mention, There's 2 sources in the article - One is IMDB and one is some CV, no evidence of notability, Fails GNG. – Davey2010 Talk 20:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure - she was certainly quite well known at one time as a child actress, when her father was alive, but I haven't heard anything about her in recent years. Deb ( talk) 21:15, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- But then wouldn't that be a
WP:NOTINHERITED issue ?, If you take away her dad would she be remembered or even known ?, Anywho having relooked at the article I guess it could be redirected to
Kavanagh QC as that's her most notable role, Thanks, –
Davey2010
Talk 21:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- You're correct in saying that she would never have been well-known if her father had not been a well-known TV actor. The places where she was mentioned would mostly have been places like TV magazines and other ephemera. I suppose it's comparable with someone like Brooklyn Beckham. So probably the best thing would be to redirect to Ralph Bates. Deb ( talk) 22:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- But then wouldn't that be a
WP:NOTINHERITED issue ?, If you take away her dad would she be remembered or even known ?, Anywho having relooked at the article I guess it could be redirected to
Kavanagh QC as that's her most notable role, Thanks, –
Davey2010
Talk 21:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete a career made up of one-pisode television apparances and bit parts in movies is just not enough to establish notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- Why not? Unscintillating ( talk) 21:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 04:34, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete. I don't see significant coverage in reliable sources. Her career apparently peaked before the internet became popular, but there are many sites that host digital archives, such as Google and Highbeam Research. There doesn't seem to be anything there except coverage of the more famous civil rights activist. If someone can locate offline coverage, the article can be recreated. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 02:43, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The problem is that we don't delete articles because they fail WP:GNG, and while the difference between WP:GNG and WP:Deletion policy can in some cases be implied; not only is this not one of those cases, consensus exists that non-notability is not a deletion argument here. Unscintillating ( talk) 13:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect The evidence available at this AfD, which matches my own searches, is that the topic is not Wikipedia notable. Further, the evidence available is that WP:Deletion policy is not applicable. Unscintillating ( talk) 13:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Ralph Bates. Per Deb ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 19:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Daisy Bates (actress)
- Daisy Bates (actress) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non notable actress, All sources point to Daisy Bates (civil rights activist) however searching "Daisy Bates actress" brings up one mention, There's 2 sources in the article - One is IMDB and one is some CV, no evidence of notability, Fails GNG. – Davey2010 Talk 20:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure - she was certainly quite well known at one time as a child actress, when her father was alive, but I haven't heard anything about her in recent years. Deb ( talk) 21:15, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- But then wouldn't that be a
WP:NOTINHERITED issue ?, If you take away her dad would she be remembered or even known ?, Anywho having relooked at the article I guess it could be redirected to
Kavanagh QC as that's her most notable role, Thanks, –
Davey2010
Talk 21:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- You're correct in saying that she would never have been well-known if her father had not been a well-known TV actor. The places where she was mentioned would mostly have been places like TV magazines and other ephemera. I suppose it's comparable with someone like Brooklyn Beckham. So probably the best thing would be to redirect to Ralph Bates. Deb ( talk) 22:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- But then wouldn't that be a
WP:NOTINHERITED issue ?, If you take away her dad would she be remembered or even known ?, Anywho having relooked at the article I guess it could be redirected to
Kavanagh QC as that's her most notable role, Thanks, –
Davey2010
Talk 21:45, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete a career made up of one-pisode television apparances and bit parts in movies is just not enough to establish notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- Why not? Unscintillating ( talk) 21:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 14:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 04:34, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 04:34, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't see significant coverage in reliable sources. Her career apparently peaked before the internet became popular, but there are many sites that host digital archives, such as Google and Highbeam Research. There doesn't seem to be anything there except coverage of the more famous civil rights activist. If someone can locate offline coverage, the article can be recreated. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 02:43, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The problem is that we don't delete articles because they fail WP:GNG, and while the difference between WP:GNG and WP:Deletion policy can in some cases be implied; not only is this not one of those cases, consensus exists that non-notability is not a deletion argument here. Unscintillating ( talk) 13:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect The evidence available at this AfD, which matches my own searches, is that the topic is not Wikipedia notable. Further, the evidence available is that WP:Deletion policy is not applicable. Unscintillating ( talk) 13:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.