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The result was delete. Deor ( talk) 12:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Cory Underwood
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I believe he fails WP:NBASKETBALL. He isn't in one of the leagues mentioned under point 1 and he hasn't won an award in the NDL under point 3 Gbawden ( talk) 09:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - This will confirm that the subject did play several seasons in the NBA Developmental League, but not the NBA itself: see here. Absent a major award in the D-League, the subject does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines of WP:NBASKETBALL. I have not yet had an opportunity to do the due diligence to see if the subject might have the required depth of significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. As it stands right now, the article is also a giant BLP violation with no sources. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 14:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable small college and minor league basketball player. Subject does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines of WP:NCOLLATH (no major college awards) or WP:NBASKETBALL (never played a regular season game in the NBA or other top-tier league). Subject was briefly on the training camp roster of the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers before being delegated to the NBA's D-League. Therefore, subject must satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG to qualify for inclusion. I have just reviewed 240+ articles from a Google search, and I find the typical WP:ROUTINE mentions in post-game coverage for high school and college game, trade, signing and waiver one-liners, fansites, team pages, blogs, etc. The closest thing to "significant" coverage were a couple of one-paragraph stories when he signed with minor league teams posted by OurSportsCentral.com, a website dedicated to minor league sports, which often prints team press releases. On balance, subject lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources and fails WP:GNG as a result. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 07:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails both WP:NHOOPS and WP:GNG. 204.126.132.231 ( talk) 18:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete' fails notability guidelines for basketball players. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:23, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Weak Keep played in the Chinese Basketball Association (see [1]). Judgement call if that qualifies as "a similar major professional sports league" for prong 1 of WP:NHOOPS. To me it does qualify considering the caliber of players that have come out of the CBA. Since I think the presumption stands, unless otherwise shown I say keep. RonSigPi ( talk) 22:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Basically an unsourced BLP about a player who fails to meet WP:NHOOPS. Jakejr ( talk) 00:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - didn't garner a significant level of coverage to constitute GNG in either college or in the D-League (neither brings an assumption of notability on its own). The question about the Chinese Basketball Association (is it a "comparable league" to the top leagues in Italy and Spain?) is a reasonable one to ask. Personally, based on my experience and knowledge of international basketball, I wouldn't say China quite rises to that level (though stars there certainly tend to meet GNG). According to his FIBA profile, Underwood only played 5 games (over 16 days) with the Dongguan Leopards of the CBA. That is a short stint that I don't think should be taken as an assurance he meets GNG. Rikster2 ( talk) 20:38, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Deor ( talk) 12:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Cory Underwood
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I believe he fails WP:NBASKETBALL. He isn't in one of the leagues mentioned under point 1 and he hasn't won an award in the NDL under point 3 Gbawden ( talk) 09:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - This will confirm that the subject did play several seasons in the NBA Developmental League, but not the NBA itself: see here. Absent a major award in the D-League, the subject does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines of WP:NBASKETBALL. I have not yet had an opportunity to do the due diligence to see if the subject might have the required depth of significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. As it stands right now, the article is also a giant BLP violation with no sources. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 14:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable small college and minor league basketball player. Subject does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines of WP:NCOLLATH (no major college awards) or WP:NBASKETBALL (never played a regular season game in the NBA or other top-tier league). Subject was briefly on the training camp roster of the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers before being delegated to the NBA's D-League. Therefore, subject must satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG to qualify for inclusion. I have just reviewed 240+ articles from a Google search, and I find the typical WP:ROUTINE mentions in post-game coverage for high school and college game, trade, signing and waiver one-liners, fansites, team pages, blogs, etc. The closest thing to "significant" coverage were a couple of one-paragraph stories when he signed with minor league teams posted by OurSportsCentral.com, a website dedicated to minor league sports, which often prints team press releases. On balance, subject lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources and fails WP:GNG as a result. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 07:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails both WP:NHOOPS and WP:GNG. 204.126.132.231 ( talk) 18:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete' fails notability guidelines for basketball players. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:23, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Weak Keep played in the Chinese Basketball Association (see [1]). Judgement call if that qualifies as "a similar major professional sports league" for prong 1 of WP:NHOOPS. To me it does qualify considering the caliber of players that have come out of the CBA. Since I think the presumption stands, unless otherwise shown I say keep. RonSigPi ( talk) 22:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Basically an unsourced BLP about a player who fails to meet WP:NHOOPS. Jakejr ( talk) 00:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - didn't garner a significant level of coverage to constitute GNG in either college or in the D-League (neither brings an assumption of notability on its own). The question about the Chinese Basketball Association (is it a "comparable league" to the top leagues in Italy and Spain?) is a reasonable one to ask. Personally, based on my experience and knowledge of international basketball, I wouldn't say China quite rises to that level (though stars there certainly tend to meet GNG). According to his FIBA profile, Underwood only played 5 games (over 16 days) with the Dongguan Leopards of the CBA. That is a short stint that I don't think should be taken as an assurance he meets GNG. Rikster2 ( talk) 20:38, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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