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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Coinye
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per WP:FART. A defunct crypto-currency. Clearly a promotional gimmick even at the time. Coverage is of the lawsuit filed by Kanye West. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 21:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment. Although I agree with your sentiment, I think we need a more solid deletion rational to go forward. I removed the most blatant non-sources in this edit. Some of the remaining sources are questionably reliable (e.g. cryptocurrency sites), which we could discuss. However, there is still a lot of coverage from RSes; probably enough to pass WP:GNG. BenKuykendall ( talk) 18:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - not every product or cryptocurrency that comes out is notable. You might think this cryptocurrency is notable for how fast it went defunct - actually, no, there are thousands of cryptos that have gone defunct, most fairly quickly. Maybe its notable because it used a celebrity's name without his permission and got sued - no, this garbage happens all the time. Maybe it's notable because of all the hype it got from the cryptocurrency press - nope, that's just promotion and that's all the cryptocurrency press do. Smallbones( smalltalk) 00:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, I'm surprised to say - this was a thing that happened and got genuine RS coverage, enough that I think it's worth having an article on - David Gerard ( talk) 17:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - It might not be the most notable thing that's ever happened, but it did generate some bemused interest in tech circles while the story played out. I think there was enough notability that it's reasonable to keep around. It was covered in plenty of RS at the time. Warhorus ( talk) 16:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- Chuen, David Lee Kuo, ed. (2015).
Handbook of Digital Currency: Bitcoin, Innovation, Financial Instruments, and Big Data. London:
Academic Press. p. 256.
ISBN
978-0-12-802117-0. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The book notes:
Some cryptocurrencies have legal issues such as Coinye, an altcoin that used, without permission, rapper Kanye West as its logo. This altcoin has been compared to the popular Dogecoin. Upon hearing of the release of Coinye, originally called Coinye West, attorneys for Kanye West sent a cease and desist letter to the e-mail operator of Coinye, whose name remains unknown. The letter stated that Coinye was willful trademark infringement, unfair competition, cyberpiracy, and dilution and instructed Coinye to stop using the likeness and name of Kanye West. Kanye West filed a trademark lawsuit against the creators of the cryptocurrency "Coinye."
- Geffen, Sasha (2017-12-13).
"How much would Coinye be worth today if Kanye West hadn't sued it to death?".
The Fader. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Launched and killed in January of 2014, Coinye was a cryptocurrency developed with the intention of making cryptocurrency accessible to non-programmers. Its creators said in interviews at the time they hoped it might be used to buy concert tickets; they also hoped their ingenuity would earn them West's blessing, even though they used his name and likeness without seeking his approval. "We chose to represent Kanye because he is and always has been a trendsetter, and he's always keeping things unique," one of the currency's developers said in an anonymous Noisey interview. "We'd love if Kanye named dropped Coinye. I think he's gonna love that there’s a currency named in his honor."
Turns out, Kanye West did not love that there was a currency named in his honor. In fact, West issued a cease and desist to the creators of Coinye, prompting them to change the currency's logo and open it up to trade a few days ahead of schedule. Coinye lived for less than a week; by January 14, 2014, its creators declared it dead, and three of them ended up settling with West in court.
But in an alternate universe where West had embraced rather than discarded Coinye, how much value might it have accumulated? While Coinye was never actually exchanged for dollars, some enthusiastic crypto investors apparently purchased some of the Yeezy-themed money with bitcoin. On January 8, 2014, two users on a bitcoin forum agreed to a deal: 125,000 Coinye for 0.1 bitcoin, or about $83 according to Coinbase's price chart.
- Liao, Shannon (2017-12-30).
"Where some of the weirdest cryptocurrencies of the early 2010s are now".
The Verge. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Coinye West
This fun altcoin for the hip hop community existed for a short-lived seven months in 2014. Coinye West died when Kanye West sued the developers and won a copyright infringement lawsuit. Its developers tried to keep the coin alive as Coinye instead of Coinye West, but despite their efforts, nobody mines or trades this coin in 2017.Price near launch: Supposedly it rose as high as $1,000 per coin, according to its developers.
Price now: Defunct.
- Schneider, Marc (2014-07-27).
"Kanye West Buries Coinye With Lawsuit Victory".
Billboard. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Coinye West, a whimsical addition to the cryptocurrency craze, whose founders hitched its name and logo to the wagon of one of the biggest stars in hip-hop, has officially died. In documents filed July 22 in New York, a U.S. District Court declared Kanye West the victor over most of Coinye's makers, some of them John-and-Jane Does, by default because they never bothered to respond to his complaints.
The parody electronic currency was announced in January but quickly shut down after West filed a cease-and-desist order and sued the large group of defendants for unspecified damages. The lawsuit complained that the defendants "usurped West's name and likeness for the sole purpose of propping up the perceived 'value' of the defendants' 'digital coin mine' and its 'crypto currency.'"
- Bassil, Ryan (2014-01-02).
"Screw Bitcoin and Dogecoin, There's a Kanye West Themed Cryptocurrency On The Way".
Vice. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
The newest iteration, CoinYe West, is evident of how the lunacy can stretch.
Launching January 11 with the catchphrase “WE AIN'T MININ', WE PICKIN'”, the system promises “no premine, no screwed up fake "fair" launches, shyster devs, muted channels, and f**ked up wallets”. Just like Kanye West, CoinYe West won’t be taking any shit.
Alongside the website design, there are some more technical nods to Kanye’s supposed illuminati connections. The maximum number of coins that can ever be mined in the currency is 66,666,666,666.
- Yadron, Danny (2014-01-07).
"Kanye's Lawyer Moves to Block Coinye".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-01-12. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Lawyers for Kanye West filed cease-and-desist papers against the seven anonymous coders behind Coinye West, a virtual currency that went from chatroom joke to Internet sensation last week.
The legal document, dated Jan. 6, includes an image of Coinye -- a cartoon representation of West on a gold medallion. West’s lawyer argues trademark infringement.
...
Hoping to keep pace with the self-assured, brash West, the techies aren't backing down. Instead, they are moving up Coinye’s release date to as early as Tuesday night. Looking for surer footing, they changed the name of the currency from Coinye West to just “Coinye” and moved their website from a .com domain name to one registered in India.
-
"Gold diggers defeated: Kanye West wins legal battle against digital currency Coinye".
The Guardian. 2014-07-27. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Name: Coinye.
Age: Six months.
Appearance: A gold coin emblazoned with a crude cartoon representation of Kanye West's head fused with the body of a fish.
- Michaels, Sean (2014-01-08). "Kanye West's lawyers attempt to block Coinye currency". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Michaels, Sean (2014-01-03). "Kanye West inspired Bitcoin alternative to launch next month". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "All Falls Down: Kanye West Kills 'Coinye' Bitcoin With Lawsuit Victory". NBC News. 2014-03-19. Archived from the original on 2014-08-05. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "Yeezus Balks: Kanye West Sues Over 'Coinye' Bitcoins". NBC News. 2014-01-14. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "Oh Yeezus! Cryptocurrency Gets Hip with Kanye-inspired 'Coinye West'". NBC News. 2014-01-02. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-07). "Kanye West's lawyer orders "Coinye" to cease and desist just before launch". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-05-06). "Dutch student fights solo battle against Kanye West's Coinye lawsuit". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-14). "Coinye is dead, long live Coinye: Kanye West lawsuit prompts disarray". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-10). "Coinye fights back against Kanye West with its own cease and desist letter". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- LeJacq, Yannick (2014-01-02). "Oh Yeezus! Cryptocurrency Gets Hip With Kanye-Inspired "Coinye West"". NBC News. Archived from the original on 2014-01-02. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Gardner, Eriq (2014-03-11). "Kanye West Reveals Names Behind 'Coinye' Cryptocurrency". The Hollywood Reporter. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Chuen, David Lee Kuo, ed. (2015).
Handbook of Digital Currency: Bitcoin, Innovation, Financial Instruments, and Big Data. London:
Academic Press. p. 256.
ISBN
978-0-12-802117-0. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG with sources provided by Cunard. — Newslinger talk 23:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Sources provided shows this crytpocurrency has received enough mainstream coverage to pass WP:GNG. Valoem talk contrib 13:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Can understand rational for deletion, but there are enough sources to make this notable and interesting from an historical perspective. Sargdub ( talk) 02:56, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Coinye
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per WP:FART. A defunct crypto-currency. Clearly a promotional gimmick even at the time. Coverage is of the lawsuit filed by Kanye West. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 21:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett ( talk) 00:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Balkywrest ( talk) 20:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Balkywrest ( talk) 20:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Comment. Although I agree with your sentiment, I think we need a more solid deletion rational to go forward. I removed the most blatant non-sources in this edit. Some of the remaining sources are questionably reliable (e.g. cryptocurrency sites), which we could discuss. However, there is still a lot of coverage from RSes; probably enough to pass WP:GNG. BenKuykendall ( talk) 18:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Balkywrest ( talk) 23:43, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Balkywrest ( talk) 00:21, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear ( talk) 10:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - not every product or cryptocurrency that comes out is notable. You might think this cryptocurrency is notable for how fast it went defunct - actually, no, there are thousands of cryptos that have gone defunct, most fairly quickly. Maybe its notable because it used a celebrity's name without his permission and got sued - no, this garbage happens all the time. Maybe it's notable because of all the hype it got from the cryptocurrency press - nope, that's just promotion and that's all the cryptocurrency press do. Smallbones( smalltalk) 00:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, I'm surprised to say - this was a thing that happened and got genuine RS coverage, enough that I think it's worth having an article on - David Gerard ( talk) 17:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - It might not be the most notable thing that's ever happened, but it did generate some bemused interest in tech circles while the story played out. I think there was enough notability that it's reasonable to keep around. It was covered in plenty of RS at the time. Warhorus ( talk) 16:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources.
- Chuen, David Lee Kuo, ed. (2015).
Handbook of Digital Currency: Bitcoin, Innovation, Financial Instruments, and Big Data. London:
Academic Press. p. 256.
ISBN
978-0-12-802117-0. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The book notes:
Some cryptocurrencies have legal issues such as Coinye, an altcoin that used, without permission, rapper Kanye West as its logo. This altcoin has been compared to the popular Dogecoin. Upon hearing of the release of Coinye, originally called Coinye West, attorneys for Kanye West sent a cease and desist letter to the e-mail operator of Coinye, whose name remains unknown. The letter stated that Coinye was willful trademark infringement, unfair competition, cyberpiracy, and dilution and instructed Coinye to stop using the likeness and name of Kanye West. Kanye West filed a trademark lawsuit against the creators of the cryptocurrency "Coinye."
- Geffen, Sasha (2017-12-13).
"How much would Coinye be worth today if Kanye West hadn't sued it to death?".
The Fader. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Launched and killed in January of 2014, Coinye was a cryptocurrency developed with the intention of making cryptocurrency accessible to non-programmers. Its creators said in interviews at the time they hoped it might be used to buy concert tickets; they also hoped their ingenuity would earn them West's blessing, even though they used his name and likeness without seeking his approval. "We chose to represent Kanye because he is and always has been a trendsetter, and he's always keeping things unique," one of the currency's developers said in an anonymous Noisey interview. "We'd love if Kanye named dropped Coinye. I think he's gonna love that there’s a currency named in his honor."
Turns out, Kanye West did not love that there was a currency named in his honor. In fact, West issued a cease and desist to the creators of Coinye, prompting them to change the currency's logo and open it up to trade a few days ahead of schedule. Coinye lived for less than a week; by January 14, 2014, its creators declared it dead, and three of them ended up settling with West in court.
But in an alternate universe where West had embraced rather than discarded Coinye, how much value might it have accumulated? While Coinye was never actually exchanged for dollars, some enthusiastic crypto investors apparently purchased some of the Yeezy-themed money with bitcoin. On January 8, 2014, two users on a bitcoin forum agreed to a deal: 125,000 Coinye for 0.1 bitcoin, or about $83 according to Coinbase's price chart.
- Liao, Shannon (2017-12-30).
"Where some of the weirdest cryptocurrencies of the early 2010s are now".
The Verge. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Coinye West
This fun altcoin for the hip hop community existed for a short-lived seven months in 2014. Coinye West died when Kanye West sued the developers and won a copyright infringement lawsuit. Its developers tried to keep the coin alive as Coinye instead of Coinye West, but despite their efforts, nobody mines or trades this coin in 2017.Price near launch: Supposedly it rose as high as $1,000 per coin, according to its developers.
Price now: Defunct.
- Schneider, Marc (2014-07-27).
"Kanye West Buries Coinye With Lawsuit Victory".
Billboard. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Coinye West, a whimsical addition to the cryptocurrency craze, whose founders hitched its name and logo to the wagon of one of the biggest stars in hip-hop, has officially died. In documents filed July 22 in New York, a U.S. District Court declared Kanye West the victor over most of Coinye's makers, some of them John-and-Jane Does, by default because they never bothered to respond to his complaints.
The parody electronic currency was announced in January but quickly shut down after West filed a cease-and-desist order and sued the large group of defendants for unspecified damages. The lawsuit complained that the defendants "usurped West's name and likeness for the sole purpose of propping up the perceived 'value' of the defendants' 'digital coin mine' and its 'crypto currency.'"
- Bassil, Ryan (2014-01-02).
"Screw Bitcoin and Dogecoin, There's a Kanye West Themed Cryptocurrency On The Way".
Vice. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
The newest iteration, CoinYe West, is evident of how the lunacy can stretch.
Launching January 11 with the catchphrase “WE AIN'T MININ', WE PICKIN'”, the system promises “no premine, no screwed up fake "fair" launches, shyster devs, muted channels, and f**ked up wallets”. Just like Kanye West, CoinYe West won’t be taking any shit.
Alongside the website design, there are some more technical nods to Kanye’s supposed illuminati connections. The maximum number of coins that can ever be mined in the currency is 66,666,666,666.
- Yadron, Danny (2014-01-07).
"Kanye's Lawyer Moves to Block Coinye".
The Wall Street Journal. Archived from
the original on 2014-01-12. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Lawyers for Kanye West filed cease-and-desist papers against the seven anonymous coders behind Coinye West, a virtual currency that went from chatroom joke to Internet sensation last week.
The legal document, dated Jan. 6, includes an image of Coinye -- a cartoon representation of West on a gold medallion. West’s lawyer argues trademark infringement.
...
Hoping to keep pace with the self-assured, brash West, the techies aren't backing down. Instead, they are moving up Coinye’s release date to as early as Tuesday night. Looking for surer footing, they changed the name of the currency from Coinye West to just “Coinye” and moved their website from a .com domain name to one registered in India.
-
"Gold diggers defeated: Kanye West wins legal battle against digital currency Coinye".
The Guardian. 2014-07-27. Archived from
the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
The article notes:
Name: Coinye.
Age: Six months.
Appearance: A gold coin emblazoned with a crude cartoon representation of Kanye West's head fused with the body of a fish.
- Michaels, Sean (2014-01-08). "Kanye West's lawyers attempt to block Coinye currency". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Michaels, Sean (2014-01-03). "Kanye West inspired Bitcoin alternative to launch next month". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "All Falls Down: Kanye West Kills 'Coinye' Bitcoin With Lawsuit Victory". NBC News. 2014-03-19. Archived from the original on 2014-08-05. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "Yeezus Balks: Kanye West Sues Over 'Coinye' Bitcoins". NBC News. 2014-01-14. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- "Oh Yeezus! Cryptocurrency Gets Hip with Kanye-inspired 'Coinye West'". NBC News. 2014-01-02. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-07). "Kanye West's lawyer orders "Coinye" to cease and desist just before launch". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-05-06). "Dutch student fights solo battle against Kanye West's Coinye lawsuit". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-14). "Coinye is dead, long live Coinye: Kanye West lawsuit prompts disarray". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Farivar, Cyrus (2014-01-10). "Coinye fights back against Kanye West with its own cease and desist letter". Ars Technica. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- LeJacq, Yannick (2014-01-02). "Oh Yeezus! Cryptocurrency Gets Hip With Kanye-Inspired "Coinye West"". NBC News. Archived from the original on 2014-01-02. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Gardner, Eriq (2014-03-11). "Kanye West Reveals Names Behind 'Coinye' Cryptocurrency". The Hollywood Reporter. Archived from the original on 2018-11-25. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
- Chuen, David Lee Kuo, ed. (2015).
Handbook of Digital Currency: Bitcoin, Innovation, Financial Instruments, and Big Data. London:
Academic Press. p. 256.
ISBN
978-0-12-802117-0. Retrieved 2018-11-25.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG with sources provided by Cunard. — Newslinger talk 23:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Sources provided shows this crytpocurrency has received enough mainstream coverage to pass WP:GNG. Valoem talk contrib 13:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Can understand rational for deletion, but there are enough sources to make this notable and interesting from an historical perspective. Sargdub ( talk) 02:56, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.