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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Christopher Jones (footballer, born 1909)
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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 22:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Wales. Joeykai ( talk) 22:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 05:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Looking in the media, there was a Chris Jones who signed for
Bangor City F.C. in 1935-36, having played 2 years with Rochdale, and "did well with Aberdare - age 22". Which puts the birthdate off by 3 years - this is from the
Birmingham Gazette, and there's 1936 match reports in the
Liverpool Echo. I'm not sure if it's the same person though ... but how many Chris/Christopher Jones back then with Rochdale?
Nfitz (
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06:57, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- According to ENFA there was a Christopher Jones who played for Gellifaelog Amateurs and Rochdale between 1927 and 1930 - mo mention of any other clubs. Giant Snowman 18:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete we clearly do not have enough sourcing to show that this person is notable. Considering how common Christopher is as a first name and Jones as a last name, any argument that boils down to "someone three years different in age with the same name is the same person" does not work. This is a super common name, and so we need to make sure to not build the Frankenstein's Monster and falsely link multiple people just based on the same name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:33, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment There was no argument made, User:Johnpacklambert; I provided what information I'd quickly found in one source to help others who'd also be looking. I only spent a few minutes looking, so definitely not time to have an opinion; that we don't even know when he played where is very concerning. Absolutely we need to make sure. Where did you look, and what did you find JPL? Nfitz ( talk) 14:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is JPL no longer topic-banned from these?? Govvy ( talk) 12:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability, fails GNG. Giant Snowman 18:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Christopher Jones (footballer, born 1909)
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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 22:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Wales. Joeykai ( talk) 22:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 05:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Looking in the media, there was a Chris Jones who signed for
Bangor City F.C. in 1935-36, having played 2 years with Rochdale, and "did well with Aberdare - age 22". Which puts the birthdate off by 3 years - this is from the
Birmingham Gazette, and there's 1936 match reports in the
Liverpool Echo. I'm not sure if it's the same person though ... but how many Chris/Christopher Jones back then with Rochdale?
Nfitz (
talk)
06:57, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- According to ENFA there was a Christopher Jones who played for Gellifaelog Amateurs and Rochdale between 1927 and 1930 - mo mention of any other clubs. Giant Snowman 18:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete we clearly do not have enough sourcing to show that this person is notable. Considering how common Christopher is as a first name and Jones as a last name, any argument that boils down to "someone three years different in age with the same name is the same person" does not work. This is a super common name, and so we need to make sure to not build the Frankenstein's Monster and falsely link multiple people just based on the same name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:33, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment There was no argument made, User:Johnpacklambert; I provided what information I'd quickly found in one source to help others who'd also be looking. I only spent a few minutes looking, so definitely not time to have an opinion; that we don't even know when he played where is very concerning. Absolutely we need to make sure. Where did you look, and what did you find JPL? Nfitz ( talk) 14:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is JPL no longer topic-banned from these?? Govvy ( talk) 12:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability, fails GNG. Giant Snowman 18:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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