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The result was merge to Loona. Daniel ( talk) 21:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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The only claim for notability is her single album Choerry - which is actually only a pre-debut single for her group Loona. There is no evidence of a substantial musical career outside of this, only featured on a few singles. Evaders99 ( talk) 19:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment I am very confused. So the album Choerry charted at either #9 or #13 (nice discrepancy, article writers) in South Korea, which satisfies criterion #2 of WP:NMUSIC, "has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." But apparently it's not actually her album, it's her group's album which just so happens to be named after her? But the only two songs on it are a solo by her and a duet featuring her, so whose album really is it? I don't get it. Mlb96 ( talk) 21:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have been involved in some confusion over the various members of Loona, including Choerry in this discussion. There was a gimmick in 2016-17 when all 12 members of the group were featured on their own "single albums" with one or two songs each. See Loona discography#Single albums. To my knowledge, those are all considered to be Loona releases, including the one by Choerry, and the success of those releases is credited to the group. I think the Wikipedia community has generally decided to cut back the individual articles for each of the 12 group members and their self-titled "albums" and talk about everything at the group's article. See also the discussion at Draft:Chuu (singer). --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mlb96: For clarification, the album debuted at #13 on Gaon back in 2017. It re-entered in late February 2020 along with a bunch of Loona-related albums at #14 then peaked at #9 the following week. Just seems like someone forgot to cross sources between the artist's page and the standalone, but I've corrected it for now Toyota Impreza ( talk) 19:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Loona. See my comment above. Like her groupmates, Choerry's individual achievements can be described at the group article. I recommend the same for ViVi (singer) if anyone chooses to address her article in this forum too. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I don't feel the notability of Loona members except Chuu now. Unlike other Loona members including Choerry, Chuu's the only individual YouTuber, who has 530, 000 subscribers, from Loona. However, two Loona members HeeJin and GoWon are created as draft articles. Should HeeJin and GoWon draft articles be also deleted? -- Hatto0467 ( talk) 12:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- If the HeeJin and GoWon articles reach the next step of the draft process, and are reviewed for possible "promotion" from draft space to main space, I suspect that they will fail just like Chuu. Those could possibly be nominated for deletion at this time, over at the Miscellany for Deletion process. But in all cases, reliable information about the individual members could be used to enhance the group's article. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:04, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Loona, I agree in all cases, reliable information about the individual members could be used to enhance the group's article. I am not sure what information is appropriate to merge. Maybe a birthday/elementary school table for the twelve members? -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Loona. Daniel ( talk) 21:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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The only claim for notability is her single album Choerry - which is actually only a pre-debut single for her group Loona. There is no evidence of a substantial musical career outside of this, only featured on a few singles. Evaders99 ( talk) 19:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment I am very confused. So the album Choerry charted at either #9 or #13 (nice discrepancy, article writers) in South Korea, which satisfies criterion #2 of WP:NMUSIC, "has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." But apparently it's not actually her album, it's her group's album which just so happens to be named after her? But the only two songs on it are a solo by her and a duet featuring her, so whose album really is it? I don't get it. Mlb96 ( talk) 21:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have been involved in some confusion over the various members of Loona, including Choerry in this discussion. There was a gimmick in 2016-17 when all 12 members of the group were featured on their own "single albums" with one or two songs each. See Loona discography#Single albums. To my knowledge, those are all considered to be Loona releases, including the one by Choerry, and the success of those releases is credited to the group. I think the Wikipedia community has generally decided to cut back the individual articles for each of the 12 group members and their self-titled "albums" and talk about everything at the group's article. See also the discussion at Draft:Chuu (singer). --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mlb96: For clarification, the album debuted at #13 on Gaon back in 2017. It re-entered in late February 2020 along with a bunch of Loona-related albums at #14 then peaked at #9 the following week. Just seems like someone forgot to cross sources between the artist's page and the standalone, but I've corrected it for now Toyota Impreza ( talk) 19:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Loona. See my comment above. Like her groupmates, Choerry's individual achievements can be described at the group article. I recommend the same for ViVi (singer) if anyone chooses to address her article in this forum too. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I don't feel the notability of Loona members except Chuu now. Unlike other Loona members including Choerry, Chuu's the only individual YouTuber, who has 530, 000 subscribers, from Loona. However, two Loona members HeeJin and GoWon are created as draft articles. Should HeeJin and GoWon draft articles be also deleted? -- Hatto0467 ( talk) 12:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- If the HeeJin and GoWon articles reach the next step of the draft process, and are reviewed for possible "promotion" from draft space to main space, I suspect that they will fail just like Chuu. Those could possibly be nominated for deletion at this time, over at the Miscellany for Deletion process. But in all cases, reliable information about the individual members could be used to enhance the group's article. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 14:04, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Loona, I agree in all cases, reliable information about the individual members could be used to enhance the group's article. I am not sure what information is appropriate to merge. Maybe a birthday/elementary school table for the twelve members? -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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