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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Charmelle Cofield
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Not meeting GNG, I find one name drop in Gnews, next to nothing about her in Gsearch. She only co-wrote "minor" hits per the article, so that probably explains why there isn't much to be found about her Oaktree b ( talk) 20:35, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- In trying the google news search myself, all that could be found was an article (that is unusable) from 2008 about an artist she worked with who claimed to be fully cured of HIV.
- That search omitted many of the mid 2000s interviews given by notable R&B artists she has written alongside, any current articles/interviews related to her hometown or community involvement, music publishing affiliations, or released gospel albums/work in the gospel industry, all of which were found in the first two/three pages of a regular Google search.
- I do not think this is the most effective evaluation method. Trainsskyscrapers ( talk) 20:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and Missouri. Shellwood ( talk) 21:36, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Weak
KeepDelete - per WP:COMPOSER, shehas credit for [...] co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition
, " A Woman Like Me", and is describedas a major influence
on her likely notable twice-Grammy-nominated ( Guitar.com), Grammy-winning ( In Kansas City) musician/songwriter son. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC) From my view, the In Kansas City source describes her influence (e.g. "he watched his mom write a song", "they began performing together at church", "it wasn’t until the duo played at 18th and Vine’s Blue Room that he felt the real power he had over an audience", plus brief details about her career), and the Guitar source mentions their collaboration (e.g. "One of his most endearing continued collaborations", "has co-written some of her son's material since 2016" plus brief details about her career), but on further consideration, including because I had initially been concerned about the limited depth and independence in available sources about Cofield, I have updated my !vote from weak keep to weak delete. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 22:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)- Delete: I don't see what Beccaynr is referring to regarding her being an influence on her son. Neither of the sources there appear to say so. Only one source in the article is actually about Cofield and it's a press release. Didn't see anything else. QuietHere ( talk) 23:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: producer of two gospel albums [1] alone does not pass WP:GNG.-- hroest 02:38, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Charmelle Cofield
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Not meeting GNG, I find one name drop in Gnews, next to nothing about her in Gsearch. She only co-wrote "minor" hits per the article, so that probably explains why there isn't much to be found about her Oaktree b ( talk) 20:35, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- In trying the google news search myself, all that could be found was an article (that is unusable) from 2008 about an artist she worked with who claimed to be fully cured of HIV.
- That search omitted many of the mid 2000s interviews given by notable R&B artists she has written alongside, any current articles/interviews related to her hometown or community involvement, music publishing affiliations, or released gospel albums/work in the gospel industry, all of which were found in the first two/three pages of a regular Google search.
- I do not think this is the most effective evaluation method. Trainsskyscrapers ( talk) 20:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and Missouri. Shellwood ( talk) 21:36, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Weak
KeepDelete - per WP:COMPOSER, shehas credit for [...] co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition
, " A Woman Like Me", and is describedas a major influence
on her likely notable twice-Grammy-nominated ( Guitar.com), Grammy-winning ( In Kansas City) musician/songwriter son. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC) From my view, the In Kansas City source describes her influence (e.g. "he watched his mom write a song", "they began performing together at church", "it wasn’t until the duo played at 18th and Vine’s Blue Room that he felt the real power he had over an audience", plus brief details about her career), and the Guitar source mentions their collaboration (e.g. "One of his most endearing continued collaborations", "has co-written some of her son's material since 2016" plus brief details about her career), but on further consideration, including because I had initially been concerned about the limited depth and independence in available sources about Cofield, I have updated my !vote from weak keep to weak delete. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 22:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)- Delete: I don't see what Beccaynr is referring to regarding her being an influence on her son. Neither of the sources there appear to say so. Only one source in the article is actually about Cofield and it's a press release. Didn't see anything else. QuietHere ( talk) 23:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: producer of two gospel albums [1] alone does not pass WP:GNG.-- hroest 02:38, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
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