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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. There's clear agreement that a mass AfD isn't the right way to go about it, so I will submit individual nominations. ( non-admin closure) – dlthewave ☎ 15:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Chair Crossing, Arizona
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- Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Coconino, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Corva, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Cosnino, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Coyote Basin Ranch, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Cucamonga Junction, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Darling, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Daze, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Durfee Crossing, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Echinique Place, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Mass-produced GNIS stubs which fail GNG due to lack of significant coverage. – dlthewave ☎ 03:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment Will study these. Lightburst ( talk) 03:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I only checked Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona, which I think is a keep. But I will not WP:PILEON with a !vote. Perhaps the nominator will consider withdrawing the nomination so we have a WP:SKCRIT situation. Lightburst ( talk) 13:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep This is absolutely unacceptable, as the nominator has not done anything to demonstrate any sort of WP:BEFORE searches for any of these articles. For instance, Corva is cited as the home of a man who was killed by a train, and [1] shows it was a siding where people at least worked and was possibly a company town for the Corva Lumber Company (and there's some other evidence people lived in these sorts of places, such as [2].) These WP:BEFORE searches are difficult and the GNIS isn't necessarily reliable, but just because an article is a GNIS stub doesn't mean it's not notable. In fact, I would assume a GNIS stub is notable until otherwise shown. As another example, I found [www.newspapers.com/image/515893885/ this] for Cosnino immediately. There's not a race to delete these - when I was doing nominations for Maricopa County places in Phoenix, I've taken a lot of care in order to ensure the right decision was being made. SportingFlyer T· C 04:27, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep per SportingFlyer. I also did a bit of research on these places, and Corva and Daze are both documented in a 1960 Arizona place names book, while Coal Mine Mesa is a ghost town with standing residential ruins. That's not the case for all of them - Echinique Place, for instance, seems to have never been more than a ranch - but enough of these places seem like real communities of some sort that they shouldn't all be judged as part of one bundle. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 06:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep. I spenT hours tonight going through the 11 other individual ones and am burned out. Unlike the batch of windmills done as a group, these look to be unrelated. There is no rush. Can we do them individually and 10 or so a week, not 20 at a time? MB 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. There's clear agreement that a mass AfD isn't the right way to go about it, so I will submit individual nominations. ( non-admin closure) – dlthewave ☎ 15:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Chair Crossing, Arizona
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- Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Coconino, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Corva, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Cosnino, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Coyote Basin Ranch, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Cucamonga Junction, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Darling, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Daze, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Durfee Crossing, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Echinique Place, Arizona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Mass-produced GNIS stubs which fail GNG due to lack of significant coverage. – dlthewave ☎ 03:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 03:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 03:12, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Will study these. Lightburst ( talk) 03:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I only checked Coal Mine Mesa, Arizona, which I think is a keep. But I will not WP:PILEON with a !vote. Perhaps the nominator will consider withdrawing the nomination so we have a WP:SKCRIT situation. Lightburst ( talk) 13:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep This is absolutely unacceptable, as the nominator has not done anything to demonstrate any sort of WP:BEFORE searches for any of these articles. For instance, Corva is cited as the home of a man who was killed by a train, and [1] shows it was a siding where people at least worked and was possibly a company town for the Corva Lumber Company (and there's some other evidence people lived in these sorts of places, such as [2].) These WP:BEFORE searches are difficult and the GNIS isn't necessarily reliable, but just because an article is a GNIS stub doesn't mean it's not notable. In fact, I would assume a GNIS stub is notable until otherwise shown. As another example, I found [www.newspapers.com/image/515893885/ this] for Cosnino immediately. There's not a race to delete these - when I was doing nominations for Maricopa County places in Phoenix, I've taken a lot of care in order to ensure the right decision was being made. SportingFlyer T· C 04:27, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep per SportingFlyer. I also did a bit of research on these places, and Corva and Daze are both documented in a 1960 Arizona place names book, while Coal Mine Mesa is a ghost town with standing residential ruins. That's not the case for all of them - Echinique Place, for instance, seems to have never been more than a ranch - but enough of these places seem like real communities of some sort that they shouldn't all be judged as part of one bundle. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 06:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep. I spenT hours tonight going through the 11 other individual ones and am burned out. Unlike the batch of windmills done as a group, these look to be unrelated. There is no rush. Can we do them individually and 10 or so a week, not 20 at a time? MB 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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