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The result was Redirect as proposed by Havradim.
Yud Shvat (Hebrew date transliteration) to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays (same goes for similar redirects such as
Gimel Tamuz and
Gimel Tammuz); For numerical date articles:
1 Kislev to
Kislev#Kislev in Jewish history and tradition;
11 Nissan to
Nisan#Holidays and observances;
22 Shvat to
Shevat#Shevat in Jewish history and tradition;
3 Tammuz and
12–13 Tammuz to
Tammuz (Hebrew month)#In Jewish history
(non-admin closure)
Natg 19 (
talk)
01:59, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Chabad holidays
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A group of small articles from Category:Days of the Hebrew calendar, that are all about Chabad holidays. These holidays already have a section in an article, Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays. The articles are very short, partially inflated with unrelated and unnoteworthy additions, and are of minimal interest to the general public outside the Chabad movement. Debresser ( talk) 02:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Debresser, I assume you'd prefer a redirect and merge any useful content.
I.am.a.qwerty (
talk)
05:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think there is much to merge, if anything at all. As I said, the articles have been bloated with unrelated and unimportant information. Debresser ( talk) 11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per WP:REDUNDANTFORK as follows: Yud Shvat (Hebrew date transliteration) to Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays (same goes for similar redirects such as Gimel Tamuz and Gimel Tammuz); For numerical date articles: 1 Kislev to Kislev#Kislev in Jewish history and tradition; 11 Nissan to Nisan#Holidays and observances; 22 Shvat to Shevat#Shevat in Jewish history and tradition; 3 Tammuz and 12–13 Tammuz to Tammuz (Hebrew month)#In Jewish history. Havradim leaf a message 09:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can see the logic behind a redirect to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays for the articles with dates in words. For the articles with dates in numbers, since no similar articles exist for other dates, I'd delete them.
Debresser (
talk)
11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- It
doesn't hurt to have them. I believe there is a full article for each Gregorian date. See
March 1,
March 2, et al. For the Hebrew calendar dates, the Hebrew month articles are where the individual dates are currently kept.
Havradim
leaf a message
17:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Havradim: If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar, I would have no problem with that. But as it stands, only 4 other special date articles exist apart from the above nominated 6 Chabad holidays, out of a whole 414 possible Hebrew dates. For that reason, logic and statistics dictates that we delete these as well.
Debresser (
talk)
22:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar ...
. Well then, maybe we should. That is why I pointed out the Gregorian calendar articles, and why I !voted redirect instead of delete. Right now though, it seems that it is sufficient to have the individual dates in the month articles, instead of having an article for each, as in the Gregorian. And anyone can spend a few hours of their life and create a redirect for each of the 400 or so Hebrew dates (see: WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST; I counted approximately 383 numbered dates, including Adar Sheni). Investing a lot more hours would get us at least one line about almost every one of those dates, including yahrzeits of notable people and other historical events in Jewish history where the Hebrew calendar date plays a significant role in their historicity. Havradim leaf a message 04:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Havradim: If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar, I would have no problem with that. But as it stands, only 4 other special date articles exist apart from the above nominated 6 Chabad holidays, out of a whole 414 possible Hebrew dates. For that reason, logic and statistics dictates that we delete these as well.
Debresser (
talk)
22:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- It
doesn't hurt to have them. I believe there is a full article for each Gregorian date. See
March 1,
March 2, et al. For the Hebrew calendar dates, the Hebrew month articles are where the individual dates are currently kept.
Havradim
leaf a message
17:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can see the logic behind a redirect to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays for the articles with dates in words. For the articles with dates in numbers, since no similar articles exist for other dates, I'd delete them.
Debresser (
talk)
11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 13:01, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Judaism. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- redirects per Havradim. THe articles contain valid referenced information. Loew Galitz ( talk) 18:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect exactly as per Havradim. Very precise look at it all. I think that there is no issue with having any arbitrary date like 4 Iyar redirect to Iyar or an appropriate subsection. Tartar Torte 18:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Redirect as proposed by Havradim.
Yud Shvat (Hebrew date transliteration) to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays (same goes for similar redirects such as
Gimel Tamuz and
Gimel Tammuz); For numerical date articles:
1 Kislev to
Kislev#Kislev in Jewish history and tradition;
11 Nissan to
Nisan#Holidays and observances;
22 Shvat to
Shevat#Shevat in Jewish history and tradition;
3 Tammuz and
12–13 Tammuz to
Tammuz (Hebrew month)#In Jewish history
(non-admin closure)
Natg 19 (
talk)
01:59, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Chabad holidays
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Yud Shvat ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- 1 Kislev ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- 11 Nissan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- 22 Shvat ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- 3 Tammuz ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- 12–13 Tammuz ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
A group of small articles from Category:Days of the Hebrew calendar, that are all about Chabad holidays. These holidays already have a section in an article, Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays. The articles are very short, partially inflated with unrelated and unnoteworthy additions, and are of minimal interest to the general public outside the Chabad movement. Debresser ( talk) 02:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Debresser, I assume you'd prefer a redirect and merge any useful content.
I.am.a.qwerty (
talk)
05:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think there is much to merge, if anything at all. As I said, the articles have been bloated with unrelated and unimportant information. Debresser ( talk) 11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per WP:REDUNDANTFORK as follows: Yud Shvat (Hebrew date transliteration) to Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays (same goes for similar redirects such as Gimel Tamuz and Gimel Tammuz); For numerical date articles: 1 Kislev to Kislev#Kislev in Jewish history and tradition; 11 Nissan to Nisan#Holidays and observances; 22 Shvat to Shevat#Shevat in Jewish history and tradition; 3 Tammuz and 12–13 Tammuz to Tammuz (Hebrew month)#In Jewish history. Havradim leaf a message 09:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can see the logic behind a redirect to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays for the articles with dates in words. For the articles with dates in numbers, since no similar articles exist for other dates, I'd delete them.
Debresser (
talk)
11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- It
doesn't hurt to have them. I believe there is a full article for each Gregorian date. See
March 1,
March 2, et al. For the Hebrew calendar dates, the Hebrew month articles are where the individual dates are currently kept.
Havradim
leaf a message
17:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Havradim: If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar, I would have no problem with that. But as it stands, only 4 other special date articles exist apart from the above nominated 6 Chabad holidays, out of a whole 414 possible Hebrew dates. For that reason, logic and statistics dictates that we delete these as well.
Debresser (
talk)
22:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar ...
. Well then, maybe we should. That is why I pointed out the Gregorian calendar articles, and why I !voted redirect instead of delete. Right now though, it seems that it is sufficient to have the individual dates in the month articles, instead of having an article for each, as in the Gregorian. And anyone can spend a few hours of their life and create a redirect for each of the 400 or so Hebrew dates (see: WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST; I counted approximately 383 numbered dates, including Adar Sheni). Investing a lot more hours would get us at least one line about almost every one of those dates, including yahrzeits of notable people and other historical events in Jewish history where the Hebrew calendar date plays a significant role in their historicity. Havradim leaf a message 04:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @
Havradim: If we had all dates of the Hebrew calendar, I would have no problem with that. But as it stands, only 4 other special date articles exist apart from the above nominated 6 Chabad holidays, out of a whole 414 possible Hebrew dates. For that reason, logic and statistics dictates that we delete these as well.
Debresser (
talk)
22:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- It
doesn't hurt to have them. I believe there is a full article for each Gregorian date. See
March 1,
March 2, et al. For the Hebrew calendar dates, the Hebrew month articles are where the individual dates are currently kept.
Havradim
leaf a message
17:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can see the logic behind a redirect to
Chabad customs and holidays#Holidays for the articles with dates in words. For the articles with dates in numbers, since no similar articles exist for other dates, I'd delete them.
Debresser (
talk)
11:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 13:01, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Judaism. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- redirects per Havradim. THe articles contain valid referenced information. Loew Galitz ( talk) 18:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect exactly as per Havradim. Very precise look at it all. I think that there is no issue with having any arbitrary date like 4 Iyar redirect to Iyar or an appropriate subsection. Tartar Torte 18:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.