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Does it? GEOFEAT says this "Many artificial geographical features may be mentioned in plenty of reliable sources, but they may not necessarily be notable. The inclusion of a man-made geographical feature on maps or in directories is insufficient to establish topic notability." I don't think this train station warrants a standalone article, if this is all the information there is on this station, one for the entire line will be more than fine.
Mopswade (
talk)
09:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep but only if someone adds a source. Failing that, redirect to the line, if the list of stations is supported by a source, or delete if not.
PamD11:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)reply
No other Wikipedia can determine non-notability, because this is the best developed of all the language editions. I'm at a disadvantage here compared to you, because I don't know Turkish, but
this looks like an independent reliable source to me. We shouldn't expect "Cebeci Tren İstasyonu" to appear in that order in any such source, any more that we would expect "Anytown Railway Station" to appear in that order in an article about the railway station in Anytown in an Anglophone country.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
19:24, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't know Turkish either - for determining notability for articles like these, I try to find an applicable article in the source-language Wiki, and since different wikis have different notability guidelines, try to run searches based on keywords in those articles. I can't find anything related to trains in the dergipark article, as they use the term "station neighborhood" to describe the place, but that's not related to the train station (reading the English abstract.) I'm also happy to change to a keep if proper sourcing is found - I'm not against this article, it just needs to be properly sourced or else redirected to the main line - and I appreciate you trying to salvage it.
SportingFlyerT·C20:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I recognize the precedent for keeping rail station stubs, but in this case a standalone stub doesn't help the reader at all. The information one would need to make sense of the stub content is covered at
Başkentray; why not just cover it there instead of making them click through? –
dlthewave☎13:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Mainline rail station. It's impossible for extensive government and private reports, analysis and studies to not exist. Such a rail station in the UK or US would never even be considered for AfD.
Oakshade (
talk)
02:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Mainline rail station or Merge/redirect (since there appear to be a lack of EN language sources at this time) to
Başkentray, the line on which it's located.
Comment If you search under ‘cebeci istasyonu’ you’ll see that the station is the subject of several songs and poems.
Mccapra (
talk)
03:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Does it? GEOFEAT says this "Many artificial geographical features may be mentioned in plenty of reliable sources, but they may not necessarily be notable. The inclusion of a man-made geographical feature on maps or in directories is insufficient to establish topic notability." I don't think this train station warrants a standalone article, if this is all the information there is on this station, one for the entire line will be more than fine.
Mopswade (
talk)
09:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep but only if someone adds a source. Failing that, redirect to the line, if the list of stations is supported by a source, or delete if not.
PamD11:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)reply
No other Wikipedia can determine non-notability, because this is the best developed of all the language editions. I'm at a disadvantage here compared to you, because I don't know Turkish, but
this looks like an independent reliable source to me. We shouldn't expect "Cebeci Tren İstasyonu" to appear in that order in any such source, any more that we would expect "Anytown Railway Station" to appear in that order in an article about the railway station in Anytown in an Anglophone country.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
19:24, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't know Turkish either - for determining notability for articles like these, I try to find an applicable article in the source-language Wiki, and since different wikis have different notability guidelines, try to run searches based on keywords in those articles. I can't find anything related to trains in the dergipark article, as they use the term "station neighborhood" to describe the place, but that's not related to the train station (reading the English abstract.) I'm also happy to change to a keep if proper sourcing is found - I'm not against this article, it just needs to be properly sourced or else redirected to the main line - and I appreciate you trying to salvage it.
SportingFlyerT·C20:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I recognize the precedent for keeping rail station stubs, but in this case a standalone stub doesn't help the reader at all. The information one would need to make sense of the stub content is covered at
Başkentray; why not just cover it there instead of making them click through? –
dlthewave☎13:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Mainline rail station. It's impossible for extensive government and private reports, analysis and studies to not exist. Such a rail station in the UK or US would never even be considered for AfD.
Oakshade (
talk)
02:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Mainline rail station or Merge/redirect (since there appear to be a lack of EN language sources at this time) to
Başkentray, the line on which it's located.
Comment If you search under ‘cebeci istasyonu’ you’ll see that the station is the subject of several songs and poems.
Mccapra (
talk)
03:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)reply
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