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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Carrie Welling
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Subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them and doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable singer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: the article creator has posted this message on the talk page of this AfD: "I'd like to recommend against deletion of Ms. Welling's page. She is an up and coming artist who is making inroads in the Nashville scene and was scheduled to tour with Delta Rae prior to the COVID 19 outbreak. I have made some changes to the page in an attempt to make it compliant with at least one of the rules for performers. If at all possible I'd like for Wiki to show some leeway if at all possible." I pointed out to the article creator on their talk page that being an opening act for Delta Rae, even if the tour had gone ahead, does not make Ms. Welling automatically notable. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:01, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: The subject of the article meets the criterion for notability as per WP:MUSICBIO: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." This includes American Songwriter, CBS New York, and an article that is currently a Forbes Editor's Pick. I believe the way forward is to improve, not delete. cc: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians. bellminer ( talk) 03:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment — It should be noted that the editor above is the article creator. Celestina007 ( talk) 02:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
*Keep: as per
bellminer point above, sources are reliable to meet
WP:MUSICBIO
Sweetteaplz (
talk) 23:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC) checkuser blocked sock
Spartaz
Humbug! 22:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
*Keep: The article in
Forbes is a notable source meeting the criteria as per
WP:MUSICBIO. Move forward to improve not delete.
Teach1983 (
talk) 07:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC) onky edit. Obvious votestack and now blocked.
Spartaz
Humbug! 22:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs a little more input from experienced users. Socks need not apply.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Needs a little more input from experienced users. Socks need not apply.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Delete Not an outright delete because the American Songwriter article is solid and with just one more of that type it would elevate this out of a TOOSOON designation. The rest of the sources, though, are...meh. CBS New York is about her former band so its good info for this article but not great to prove individual notability. Forbes article isn't about her. ION Indie is essentially a promotional platform. Edible Nashville and Now Playing Nashville are, in all due respect, minor and insignificant. Otherwise, I could find no other evidence of coverage. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 01:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Carrie Welling
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Subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them and doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable singer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: the article creator has posted this message on the talk page of this AfD: "I'd like to recommend against deletion of Ms. Welling's page. She is an up and coming artist who is making inroads in the Nashville scene and was scheduled to tour with Delta Rae prior to the COVID 19 outbreak. I have made some changes to the page in an attempt to make it compliant with at least one of the rules for performers. If at all possible I'd like for Wiki to show some leeway if at all possible." I pointed out to the article creator on their talk page that being an opening act for Delta Rae, even if the tour had gone ahead, does not make Ms. Welling automatically notable. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:01, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: The subject of the article meets the criterion for notability as per WP:MUSICBIO: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." This includes American Songwriter, CBS New York, and an article that is currently a Forbes Editor's Pick. I believe the way forward is to improve, not delete. cc: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians. bellminer ( talk) 03:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment — It should be noted that the editor above is the article creator. Celestina007 ( talk) 02:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
*Keep: as per
bellminer point above, sources are reliable to meet
WP:MUSICBIO
Sweetteaplz (
talk) 23:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC) checkuser blocked sock
Spartaz
Humbug! 22:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
*Keep: The article in
Forbes is a notable source meeting the criteria as per
WP:MUSICBIO. Move forward to improve not delete.
Teach1983 (
talk) 07:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC) onky edit. Obvious votestack and now blocked.
Spartaz
Humbug! 22:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs a little more input from experienced users. Socks need not apply.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Needs a little more input from experienced users. Socks need not apply.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Delete Not an outright delete because the American Songwriter article is solid and with just one more of that type it would elevate this out of a TOOSOON designation. The rest of the sources, though, are...meh. CBS New York is about her former band so its good info for this article but not great to prove individual notability. Forbes article isn't about her. ION Indie is essentially a promotional platform. Edible Nashville and Now Playing Nashville are, in all due respect, minor and insignificant. Otherwise, I could find no other evidence of coverage. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 01:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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