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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) NickGibson3900 - Talk - Sign my Guestbook 06:40, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Carmelita Little Turtle
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Fails WP:GNG. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. This doesn't pass WP:GNG. I don't really get why this has an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMachine03 ( talk • contribs) 12:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e decker talk 20:32, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, I found some sources:
- Tharp, Paula E. Shooting constructed realities: the self-defining art of Native American women photographers Shelley Niro and Carm Little Turtle and selected poets. Diss. University of Oklahoma, 1997.
- Biographical entries in:
- Rushing III, W. Jackson, ed. Native American art in the Twentieth Century: makers, meanings, histories. Routledge, 2013.
- Hillstrom, Laurie Collier, and Kevin Hillstrom. "Carm, Little Turtle." Contemporary Women Artists. Detroit: St. James, 1999. 405-06. Print.
- Congdon, Kristin G., and Kara Kelley Hallmark. Twentieth Century United States Photographers: A Student's Guide. Greenwood Publishing Group, 2008. (possibly, I can not read the full work)
- A many page interview in Abbott, Lawrence, ed. I stand in the center of the good: interviews with contemporary Native American artists. U of Nebraska Press, 1994.
- And so appears to meet
WP:GNG.
Antrocent (
♫♬) 21:08, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ Antrocent: Mention is not enough. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Antrocent's sources. Her profile in Contemporary Authors [1] gives some strong evidence of her notability under WP:CREATIVE. Also, she was apparently at the center of a 1993 dispute about Native American identity, but I can't read the entire newspaper.com copy of the Santa Fe Reporter article about this. [2] -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 05:00, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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Arxiloxos: There are many thousands of profiles on highbeam that fails
WP:GNG, there might have been mention of this person but it is still not enough for passing
WP:GNG.
OccultZone (
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- These are not "mentions". The Contemporary Authors listing (and the sources mentioned by Antrocent) confirm that she has been the focus of substantive coverage (see e.g. I Stand in the Center of the Good: Interviews with Contemporary Native American Artists ( University of Nebraska Press, 1994) [3] and has been collected in multiple notable museums, thus passes WP:CREATIVE. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 16:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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Arxiloxos: There are many thousands of profiles on highbeam that fails
WP:GNG, there might have been mention of this person but it is still not enough for passing
WP:GNG.
OccultZone (
Talk •
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Log) 07:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, per additional references, seems to pass WP:CREATIVE. EricSerge ( talk) 16:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) NickGibson3900 - Talk - Sign my Guestbook 06:40, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Carmelita Little Turtle
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Fails WP:GNG. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. This doesn't pass WP:GNG. I don't really get why this has an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMachine03 ( talk • contribs) 12:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e decker talk 20:32, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, I found some sources:
- Tharp, Paula E. Shooting constructed realities: the self-defining art of Native American women photographers Shelley Niro and Carm Little Turtle and selected poets. Diss. University of Oklahoma, 1997.
- Biographical entries in:
- Rushing III, W. Jackson, ed. Native American art in the Twentieth Century: makers, meanings, histories. Routledge, 2013.
- Hillstrom, Laurie Collier, and Kevin Hillstrom. "Carm, Little Turtle." Contemporary Women Artists. Detroit: St. James, 1999. 405-06. Print.
- Congdon, Kristin G., and Kara Kelley Hallmark. Twentieth Century United States Photographers: A Student's Guide. Greenwood Publishing Group, 2008. (possibly, I can not read the full work)
- A many page interview in Abbott, Lawrence, ed. I stand in the center of the good: interviews with contemporary Native American artists. U of Nebraska Press, 1994.
- And so appears to meet
WP:GNG.
Antrocent (
♫♬) 21:08, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- @ Antrocent: Mention is not enough. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Antrocent's sources. Her profile in Contemporary Authors [1] gives some strong evidence of her notability under WP:CREATIVE. Also, she was apparently at the center of a 1993 dispute about Native American identity, but I can't read the entire newspaper.com copy of the Santa Fe Reporter article about this. [2] -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 05:00, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- @
Arxiloxos: There are many thousands of profiles on highbeam that fails
WP:GNG, there might have been mention of this person but it is still not enough for passing
WP:GNG.
OccultZone (
Talk •
Contributions •
Log) 07:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- These are not "mentions". The Contemporary Authors listing (and the sources mentioned by Antrocent) confirm that she has been the focus of substantive coverage (see e.g. I Stand in the Center of the Good: Interviews with Contemporary Native American Artists ( University of Nebraska Press, 1994) [3] and has been collected in multiple notable museums, thus passes WP:CREATIVE. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 16:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- @
Arxiloxos: There are many thousands of profiles on highbeam that fails
WP:GNG, there might have been mention of this person but it is still not enough for passing
WP:GNG.
OccultZone (
Talk •
Contributions •
Log) 07:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, per additional references, seems to pass WP:CREATIVE. EricSerge ( talk) 16:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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