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The result was delete. The discussion about the Ontario Canoe Island is to do a Merge or Redirect but it seems like the consensus here for this Canoe Island is to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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These are small and insignificant islands with no significant coverage beyond database entries. Neither GNG nor GEOLAND are met. – dlthewave ☎ 20:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
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Geography,
Canada, and
Islands. –
dlthewave
☎
20:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Islands (and lakes) are not automatically notable and more than a name database item is required for stand-alone articles. The coordinate points closer to a Fox Den Island on Google Maps than a small sandy shoal which may be this one, which doesn't seem likely to have the sources needed for notability. Reywas92 Talk 05:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: location is extremely remote and almost certainly uninhabited. Also, the location pointed to is a delta, not an island, and the larger islands nearby are named something else. If location is correct, this would be a very small islet. Elinruby ( talk) 22:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Right, google and bing maps for coordinates given show water, maybe adjacent to a Fox Den Island ( per google maps) at delta of Anderson River into Woods Bay (per this map linked from Anderson River article, which is an offshoot of Liverpool Bay perhaps by that map, while Bing maps gives point location of Liverpool Bay around towards Eskimo Lakes. It is not clear to me that Anderson River flows into Liverpool Bay, how did that implication get into the article (which says the island is in Liverpool Bay? Anyhow if we cannot identify the island on a map we shouldn't keep an article about it. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 06:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge into Canoe Island jengod ( talk) 08:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider Merger option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment (nom) - I would question the usefulness of merging far-flung islands that happen to have the same name. There are many thousands of tiny islands across Northern Canada and there's really no point in even mentioning them if we have nothing more than a database entry. – dlthewave ☎ 02:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- User:Jengod and Dlthewave, is the a possible merger target for this one? It is an island in what? And User:Eastmain, could u pls clarify what second island exists... the article currently states something like " the island is in a bay and it is in an island". Maybe a second nearby Canoe Island needs to be covered in the disambiguation oage Canoe Island. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 05:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete is how i lean currently, with my questions and comments above. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 06:09, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Split to separate articles; then merge to
List of islands of Canada, or mention in
Anderson River (Northwest Territories) and
Amundsen Gulf. The current title can then redirect to the disambiguation page.
Peter James (
talk)
13:37, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- To Peter James -- that seems a bit confused as a !vote, I for one don't know what you want. About splitting to 2 articles, do you happen to understand what 2 islands are being talked about, if the article is talking about 2? I couldn't figure out that myself.
- Referencing the list-article List of islands of Canada seems helpful in this discussion, and I don't recall seeing it before. Its inclusion criteria are not clear, but it looks to me that it is trying to mention just the 200 or so biggest/most important islands in Canada. This "Canoe Island" is a remote, tiny speck compared to any of them, and I don't think it should be included there at all. My 2 cents. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 17:01, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- If you look in the references, there are database listings for two different islands which you can open to see their respective locations. We wouldn't normally include them in a single article like this; looks like the second one was added just after the article was deprodded. In my opinion it's a moot point because there's no evidence of notability whatsoever. – dlthewave ☎ 17:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete No notability at all, there's nothing to split or merge. Avilich ( talk) 14:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The discussion about the Ontario Canoe Island is to do a Merge or Redirect but it seems like the consensus here for this Canoe Island is to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Canoe Island (Northwest Territories) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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These are small and insignificant islands with no significant coverage beyond database entries. Neither GNG nor GEOLAND are met. – dlthewave ☎ 20:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Geography,
Canada, and
Islands. –
dlthewave
☎
20:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Islands (and lakes) are not automatically notable and more than a name database item is required for stand-alone articles. The coordinate points closer to a Fox Den Island on Google Maps than a small sandy shoal which may be this one, which doesn't seem likely to have the sources needed for notability. Reywas92 Talk 05:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: location is extremely remote and almost certainly uninhabited. Also, the location pointed to is a delta, not an island, and the larger islands nearby are named something else. If location is correct, this would be a very small islet. Elinruby ( talk) 22:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Right, google and bing maps for coordinates given show water, maybe adjacent to a Fox Den Island ( per google maps) at delta of Anderson River into Woods Bay (per this map linked from Anderson River article, which is an offshoot of Liverpool Bay perhaps by that map, while Bing maps gives point location of Liverpool Bay around towards Eskimo Lakes. It is not clear to me that Anderson River flows into Liverpool Bay, how did that implication get into the article (which says the island is in Liverpool Bay? Anyhow if we cannot identify the island on a map we shouldn't keep an article about it. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 06:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge into Canoe Island jengod ( talk) 08:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider Merger option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment (nom) - I would question the usefulness of merging far-flung islands that happen to have the same name. There are many thousands of tiny islands across Northern Canada and there's really no point in even mentioning them if we have nothing more than a database entry. – dlthewave ☎ 02:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- User:Jengod and Dlthewave, is the a possible merger target for this one? It is an island in what? And User:Eastmain, could u pls clarify what second island exists... the article currently states something like " the island is in a bay and it is in an island". Maybe a second nearby Canoe Island needs to be covered in the disambiguation oage Canoe Island. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 05:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete is how i lean currently, with my questions and comments above. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 06:09, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Split to separate articles; then merge to
List of islands of Canada, or mention in
Anderson River (Northwest Territories) and
Amundsen Gulf. The current title can then redirect to the disambiguation page.
Peter James (
talk)
13:37, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- To Peter James -- that seems a bit confused as a !vote, I for one don't know what you want. About splitting to 2 articles, do you happen to understand what 2 islands are being talked about, if the article is talking about 2? I couldn't figure out that myself.
- Referencing the list-article List of islands of Canada seems helpful in this discussion, and I don't recall seeing it before. Its inclusion criteria are not clear, but it looks to me that it is trying to mention just the 200 or so biggest/most important islands in Canada. This "Canoe Island" is a remote, tiny speck compared to any of them, and I don't think it should be included there at all. My 2 cents. --Doncram ( talk, contribs) 17:01, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- If you look in the references, there are database listings for two different islands which you can open to see their respective locations. We wouldn't normally include them in a single article like this; looks like the second one was added just after the article was deprodded. In my opinion it's a moot point because there's no evidence of notability whatsoever. – dlthewave ☎ 17:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete No notability at all, there's nothing to split or merge. Avilich ( talk) 14:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.