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The result was redirect to Fifth Harmony (non-admin closure) Snuggums ( talk / edits) 22:00, 28 July 2015 (UTC) reply

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From my experiences with the groups music, and being a low-key fan of theirs, Cabello does seem like the standout member of her group Fifth Harmony. However, at this point in time, I don't feel that she's notable enough for a stand-alone article. This is a sandbox I knocked up, and it contains what the article looks like if you remove all of the information associated with her group, things like the entire Tours section, or Commercials subsection of Filmography, that could easily be moved into the group article as it applies to all members. Things I also removed for the sandbox version of her article include unsourced BLP violations (The first three sentences of Personal life) and trivia, things like how she's friends with Taylor Swift ( every current popstar seems to be), and supports LGBT rights (can anyone name a current teeny-bop female popstar with half a brain and a good PR manager who publicly doesn't?) I've also applied CN tags where relevant. Note that there is a Members section of Fifth Harmony's article, and her sub-section already pretty much sums up the sandbox version of her article, but any other tidbits worth noting could be moved there should consensus be to delete. Azealia911 _talk 23:52, 21 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Keep. There is enough in your sandbox to pass WP:GNG.-- Laun chba ller 00:28, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

I know, but whats there could easily be compressed into the aforementioned members section, the majority of it already is. Azealia911 _talk 00:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

I operate under the guideline that if in merging it would take up more than twice the size of the next largest section, then it shouldn't be merged. Once I get off college tomorrow I'm going to knock up a sandbox myself of what the members section would look like if fully merged!-- Laun chba ller 00:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Sounds good to me Azealia911 _talk 00:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Try here. Cabello's section is 1332 characters and the next biggest, Kordei's, is 595.-- Laun chba ller 12:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

I'm not really seeing anything visually astonishing after tweaking (which I hope you don't mind) Azealia911 _talk 16:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —  JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 03:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. —  JJMC89 ( T· E· C) 03:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

• Merge/redirect to Fifth Harmony Launchballer, merging doesn't mean you need to include all, or even most, of this article in Fifth Harmony, it might be only a sentence or two that's added, or a simple redirect may suffice. She doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY independent of the band. Boleyn ( talk) 06:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply
• Merge/redirect to Fifth Harmony Not notable by herself. She is only notable with the group. All of her accomplishments have been with Fifth Harmony. -- Miss X-Factor ( talk) 23:32, 22 July 2015 (UTC) reply

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