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The result was keep. Sourcing found seems to be sufficient Star Mississippi 16:40, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Article hasn't been updated beyond minor edits since 2007, it has no references and there is a section within Walton, Milton Keynes #Caldecote that looks to be a much better fit for this. I've searched and haven't found any useful references for this and likely -- lack of notability. Marleeashton ( talk) 02:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and England. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:09, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -
Walton, Milton Keynes refers to a similarly-named village called 'Caldecotte'. This article refers to a village just to the east of Milton Keynes called 'Caldecote'.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
09:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah - that’s what I linked in the post. I think it fits much better there as it doesn’t carry it’s own weight as an article with no sources to be found. Ran across it in my recommended edits from Suggestbot and tried for awhile to find some citations and couldn’t find anything. I know in the early wiki days there were a lot of geo articles started from databases and I’ve been trying help them with the Villages wiki project but in some cases there’s just not enough..
Marleeashton (
talk)
19:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- The nominator is confusing two distinct and separate places albeit both are in Milton Keynes Borough. @ Marleeashton please click on the co-ordinates on the Caldecote and Walton, Milton Keynes pages and check the mapping to verify. Rupples ( talk) 18:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed its a different place, we could probably have an article on that as well [1] [2]. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah - that’s what I linked in the post. I think it fits much better there as it doesn’t carry it’s own weight as an article with no sources to be found. Ran across it in my recommended edits from Suggestbot and tried for awhile to find some citations and couldn’t find anything. I know in the early wiki days there were a lot of geo articles started from databases and I’ve been trying help them with the Villages wiki project but in some cases there’s just not enough..
Marleeashton (
talk)
19:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep although not an OS settlement it is a place in the Domesday Book
[3]
[4].
Crouch, Swale (
talk)
20:17, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that a brief note in the
Domesday Book makes the article inherently notable and therefore every specific place mentioned therein is justified in having its own page?
Rupples (
talk)
16:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- As a Domesday place name (as opposed to something merely mentioned) I'd argue that it may make a place inherently notable as its a census and it does include more than a trivial amount of information about the place then again I'm not sure, perhaps some Domesday place should be merged with the parish they are in but most are probably notable. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that a brief note in the
Domesday Book makes the article inherently notable and therefore every specific place mentioned therein is justified in having its own page?
Rupples (
talk)
16:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Of course somewhere mentioned in Domesday Book is notable. It indicates it was a recognised settlement which means it meets
WP:GEOLAND. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
17:00, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- You say "of course" but it wasn't obvious to me. Anyway, having carefully read Wikipedia:GEOLAND I now understand why it's deemed notable, so thank you for the reference. Rupples ( talk) 17:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Same reason as the two contributors immediately above.
Rupples (
talk)
17:38, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- There are two paragraphs in the Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire tracing Caldecote's manorial history, digitised here [5] Rupples ( talk) 04:18, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. If the article is to be redirected or merged it should be to Moulsoe as Caldecote is in this civil parish. Rupples ( talk) 05:04, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sourcing found seems to be sufficient Star Mississippi 16:40, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Article hasn't been updated beyond minor edits since 2007, it has no references and there is a section within Walton, Milton Keynes #Caldecote that looks to be a much better fit for this. I've searched and haven't found any useful references for this and likely -- lack of notability. Marleeashton ( talk) 02:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and England. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:09, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -
Walton, Milton Keynes refers to a similarly-named village called 'Caldecotte'. This article refers to a village just to the east of Milton Keynes called 'Caldecote'.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
09:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah - that’s what I linked in the post. I think it fits much better there as it doesn’t carry it’s own weight as an article with no sources to be found. Ran across it in my recommended edits from Suggestbot and tried for awhile to find some citations and couldn’t find anything. I know in the early wiki days there were a lot of geo articles started from databases and I’ve been trying help them with the Villages wiki project but in some cases there’s just not enough..
Marleeashton (
talk)
19:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- The nominator is confusing two distinct and separate places albeit both are in Milton Keynes Borough. @ Marleeashton please click on the co-ordinates on the Caldecote and Walton, Milton Keynes pages and check the mapping to verify. Rupples ( talk) 18:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed its a different place, we could probably have an article on that as well [1] [2]. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah - that’s what I linked in the post. I think it fits much better there as it doesn’t carry it’s own weight as an article with no sources to be found. Ran across it in my recommended edits from Suggestbot and tried for awhile to find some citations and couldn’t find anything. I know in the early wiki days there were a lot of geo articles started from databases and I’ve been trying help them with the Villages wiki project but in some cases there’s just not enough..
Marleeashton (
talk)
19:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep although not an OS settlement it is a place in the Domesday Book
[3]
[4].
Crouch, Swale (
talk)
20:17, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that a brief note in the
Domesday Book makes the article inherently notable and therefore every specific place mentioned therein is justified in having its own page?
Rupples (
talk)
16:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- As a Domesday place name (as opposed to something merely mentioned) I'd argue that it may make a place inherently notable as its a census and it does include more than a trivial amount of information about the place then again I'm not sure, perhaps some Domesday place should be merged with the parish they are in but most are probably notable. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that a brief note in the
Domesday Book makes the article inherently notable and therefore every specific place mentioned therein is justified in having its own page?
Rupples (
talk)
16:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Of course somewhere mentioned in Domesday Book is notable. It indicates it was a recognised settlement which means it meets
WP:GEOLAND. --
Necrothesp (
talk)
17:00, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- You say "of course" but it wasn't obvious to me. Anyway, having carefully read Wikipedia:GEOLAND I now understand why it's deemed notable, so thank you for the reference. Rupples ( talk) 17:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Same reason as the two contributors immediately above.
Rupples (
talk)
17:38, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- There are two paragraphs in the Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire tracing Caldecote's manorial history, digitised here [5] Rupples ( talk) 04:18, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. If the article is to be redirected or merged it should be to Moulsoe as Caldecote is in this civil parish. Rupples ( talk) 05:04, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.