- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was move to project space and redirect. (non-admin closure) voorts ( talk/ contributions) 01:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
CAT:TEMP
AfDs for this article:
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Not suitable for main namespace, has controversial history. Previous AfD was redirected to non existent category. Toadette Edit! 09:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or move to project space and redirect. I restored this page. It was a piece of project infrastructure which is linked to in event logs an enormous number of times and should not have been deleted in the first place. As with many of our other obsolete processes it needs to be retained and marked as historical. What is "has controversial history" supposed to mean? Regarding "not suitable for main namespace", please read WP:PNS. You could have used the talk page to propose converting it into a redirect to a project page rather than jumping straight to AfD. Also, you forgot to notify me. — Scott • talk 18:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that the redirect target
Category:Temporary Wikipedian user pages was deleted back in 2019. So, one should send the category to
WP:DRV so that
CAT:TEMP could then be reverted to the
redirect from 21:56, 10 March 2017.
GTrang (
talk)
02:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi GTrang, that category had been functionally extinct since 2010 - see
this history of policy changes for why - and there's no reason for it to be brought back. A better target would be an informational page in project space somewhere so that the thousands of log entries pointing to CAT:TEMP aren't a dead end. —
Scott •
talk
14:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I have created
Wikipedia:CAT:TEMP as a redirect to
CAT:TEMP. The article should be moved over that redirect if there is consensus that the page belongs in project space.
GTrang (
talk)
18:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- 👍 Looks good to me. —
Scott •
talk
21:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I am going to go ahead and move the page to project space right now. GTrang ( talk) 22:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move to project space
Done. Could
some uninvolved editor please close this AfD?
GTrang (
talk)
22:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC) - Also, I have requested undeletion of the talk page at
WP:REFUND#Talk:CAT:TEMP.
GTrang (
talk)
22:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done - thanks! —
Scott •
talk
00:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- 👍 Looks good to me. —
Scott •
talk
21:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I have created
Wikipedia:CAT:TEMP as a redirect to
CAT:TEMP. The article should be moved over that redirect if there is consensus that the page belongs in project space.
GTrang (
talk)
18:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi GTrang, that category had been functionally extinct since 2010 - see
this history of policy changes for why - and there's no reason for it to be brought back. A better target would be an informational page in project space somewhere so that the thousands of log entries pointing to CAT:TEMP aren't a dead end. —
Scott •
talk
14:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don't move a page being considered in a deletion discussion before the discussion is closed. It really complicates the closure. Instead, propose a page move as an option to resolve this discussion.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
04:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully Liz, that's nit-picking. This should never have come to AfD in the first place without a talk page discussion and a solution has already been achieved without having to jump through hoops. — Scott • talk 10:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it does mess up XFDCloser, the editing tool that we use to close AFD discussions as well as relistings. And if I'm a nitpicker, you'll hear the same comment from other AFD closers as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz ( talk • contribs) 23:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move to projectspace and redirect is probably a decent compromise. I'm not sure how much of this was really necessary, but as long as there isn't a pseudo-article in mainspace I'm not going to complain. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 08:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was move to project space and redirect. (non-admin closure) voorts ( talk/ contributions) 01:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
CAT:TEMP
AfDs for this article:
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- CAT:TEMP ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Not suitable for main namespace, has controversial history. Previous AfD was redirected to non existent category. Toadette Edit! 09:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or move to project space and redirect. I restored this page. It was a piece of project infrastructure which is linked to in event logs an enormous number of times and should not have been deleted in the first place. As with many of our other obsolete processes it needs to be retained and marked as historical. What is "has controversial history" supposed to mean? Regarding "not suitable for main namespace", please read WP:PNS. You could have used the talk page to propose converting it into a redirect to a project page rather than jumping straight to AfD. Also, you forgot to notify me. — Scott • talk 18:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that the redirect target
Category:Temporary Wikipedian user pages was deleted back in 2019. So, one should send the category to
WP:DRV so that
CAT:TEMP could then be reverted to the
redirect from 21:56, 10 March 2017.
GTrang (
talk)
02:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi GTrang, that category had been functionally extinct since 2010 - see
this history of policy changes for why - and there's no reason for it to be brought back. A better target would be an informational page in project space somewhere so that the thousands of log entries pointing to CAT:TEMP aren't a dead end. —
Scott •
talk
14:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I have created
Wikipedia:CAT:TEMP as a redirect to
CAT:TEMP. The article should be moved over that redirect if there is consensus that the page belongs in project space.
GTrang (
talk)
18:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- 👍 Looks good to me. —
Scott •
talk
21:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I am going to go ahead and move the page to project space right now. GTrang ( talk) 22:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move to project space Done. Could
some uninvolved editor please close this AfD?
GTrang (
talk)
22:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I have requested undeletion of the talk page at
WP:REFUND#Talk:CAT:TEMP.
GTrang (
talk)
22:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done - thanks! —
Scott •
talk
00:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- 👍 Looks good to me. —
Scott •
talk
21:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- For now, I have created
Wikipedia:CAT:TEMP as a redirect to
CAT:TEMP. The article should be moved over that redirect if there is consensus that the page belongs in project space.
GTrang (
talk)
18:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi GTrang, that category had been functionally extinct since 2010 - see
this history of policy changes for why - and there's no reason for it to be brought back. A better target would be an informational page in project space somewhere so that the thousands of log entries pointing to CAT:TEMP aren't a dead end. —
Scott •
talk
14:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don't move a page being considered in a deletion discussion before the discussion is closed. It really complicates the closure. Instead, propose a page move as an option to resolve this discussion.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
04:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully Liz, that's nit-picking. This should never have come to AfD in the first place without a talk page discussion and a solution has already been achieved without having to jump through hoops. — Scott • talk 10:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it does mess up XFDCloser, the editing tool that we use to close AFD discussions as well as relistings. And if I'm a nitpicker, you'll hear the same comment from other AFD closers as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz ( talk • contribs) 23:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move to projectspace and redirect is probably a decent compromise. I'm not sure how much of this was really necessary, but as long as there isn't a pseudo-article in mainspace I'm not going to complain. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 08:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.