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The result was no consensus. ( WP:NPASR). North America 1000 00:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Burton Speiser
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I don't think this guy is notable. The Amercian Brachytherapy Society, of which he was president, may be ok but there are very few sources for the man himself (614 GHits here, including LinkedIn etc). The cited obituary is a paid-for classified in the New York Times and everything else mentioned is typical stuff for a "minor" researcher. Sitush ( talk) 02:45, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
You make some good points. However, generally medical publications won't exhibit the same fame as basic physics and mathematics in the mainstream press. There tend to be significantly more publications for medical research (in this case only a few were cited but there are more for this physician and researcher) to document research results, which build on each other to the ultimate improvements that will pass FDA approval as new therapies. And in looking at a given piece, like this one, it shows a very high citation rate (31 citations) with subsequent discoveries in treatments for lung cancer) https://scholar.google.com/scholar?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1263&bih=622&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.112064104,d.cGc&ion=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=14880646036521840522
This doctor also invented what became known as the Speiser Needle (a needle within a needle for delivering radioactive treatments to tumors). However the only source I have online for that right now is the following ( http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf2/k020015.pdf) and so am hoping there will be more sources forthcoming to add to this part of the description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pellamayor ( talk • contribs) 17:16, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Well, if you can find sources somewhere then great but if they aren't discussing him then he is unlikely to be notable. Even the Speiser Needle might possibly be a notable device without Speiser himself being a notable person per se. We'd just mention him in an article about that device and, if it existed, perhaps redirect this article to that one. - Sitush ( talk) 17:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. ( WP:NPASR). North America 1000 00:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Burton Speiser
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I don't think this guy is notable. The Amercian Brachytherapy Society, of which he was president, may be ok but there are very few sources for the man himself (614 GHits here, including LinkedIn etc). The cited obituary is a paid-for classified in the New York Times and everything else mentioned is typical stuff for a "minor" researcher. Sitush ( talk) 02:45, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
You make some good points. However, generally medical publications won't exhibit the same fame as basic physics and mathematics in the mainstream press. There tend to be significantly more publications for medical research (in this case only a few were cited but there are more for this physician and researcher) to document research results, which build on each other to the ultimate improvements that will pass FDA approval as new therapies. And in looking at a given piece, like this one, it shows a very high citation rate (31 citations) with subsequent discoveries in treatments for lung cancer) https://scholar.google.com/scholar?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1263&bih=622&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.112064104,d.cGc&ion=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=14880646036521840522
This doctor also invented what became known as the Speiser Needle (a needle within a needle for delivering radioactive treatments to tumors). However the only source I have online for that right now is the following ( http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf2/k020015.pdf) and so am hoping there will be more sources forthcoming to add to this part of the description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pellamayor ( talk • contribs) 17:16, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Well, if you can find sources somewhere then great but if they aren't discussing him then he is unlikely to be notable. Even the Speiser Needle might possibly be a notable device without Speiser himself being a notable person per se. We'd just mention him in an article about that device and, if it existed, perhaps redirect this article to that one. - Sitush ( talk) 17:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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