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The result was keep. Seems to be consensus that the subject meets
WP:GNG.
ansh666 05:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Does not appear to meet
general notability; was nominated for awards but did not actually win any. Just one
reliable source that only includes a passing mention. That sole source indicates she was 17 when she died which is different from age 21 years given in the article. Please see
article talk page for further discussion.
SagaciousPhil -
Chat 08:09, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment partially copied from article talk page to keep conversation in one place There is currently
one reference to the Colorado Springs Independent, which probably counts as a
reliable source. It is, however, a mere parenthetical sentence fragment that reads: "a year older than Savannah Smiles star Bridgette Andersen, who overdosed on heroin in 1997". Most searches turn up general celebrity sites like IMDB and Find-a-Grave and the like. There are also some biographies on sites of questionable RS status, including
Movie Pilot and
Daily Hatch. Her
WP:GNG notability is questionable. A claim of "...her internet cult following" is not supported by these searches, although it would be a qualifying claim under
WP:NACTOR#2. If there is a cult following, then it should be kept and evidence should be added to the article. Otherwise, it should be deleted.
Eggishorn(talk)(contrib) 16:19, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep I did a newspaper search and found two three newspaper articles that discuss the subject in-depth. One from 1982
1 and another from 1983 (don't have access to newspapers.com to clip it though)
2. (edit to add a third newspaper article found from 1984 from newspapers.com)
3. A few more passing mentions in newspapers.
45 While the subject didn't have a long career, she did receive more than average attention from the press during her career, along with the passing mentions regarding her sad early demise and meets the GNG in my view.
GoldenAgeFan1 (
talk) 16:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep The said newspaper articles and her IMDB page give her enough legitimacy.— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
FSOJM791 (
talk •
contribs)
Comment IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source.
Dan arndt (
talk) 09:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Child actress has starred in 21 films. Also, please note that there is some coverage of the subject in Spanish. Subject has often been mentioned in books related to child actor deaths, and there was this controversy of her death being a suicide. Other than that, no notability. Edit: Funny that
User:FSOJM791 directly started participating in deletion discussions without any other edits.
King Prithviraj II (
talk) 19:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete IMDb is not a reliable source, we lack enough reliable sources to show notablility.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 22:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep She seems to have been a notable actress for her period, and GoldenAgeFan1 demonstrated that there are published sources about her.
Dimadick (
talk) 11:44, 24 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment she was nominated for multiple awards so her peers must have thought she was notable.
Paul Benjamin Austin (
talk) 10:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep: Award-nominated child actor in a major film of its time. This is a case of pre-google age fame. Subject of more than adequate third-party coverage independent of the subject. Meets WP:GNG.
Montanabw(talk) 02:05, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment As noted, she died before the internet got into full swing which makes it hard to find out about her award-nominated notability in the dead tree era.
Paul Benjamin Austin (
talk) 02:45, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - With her roles in Savannah Smiles and Fever Pitch, she clearly passes
WP:GNG, and her role in Nightmares might also be significant, although I wouldn't base my vote on that, being more problematic. The sourcing isn't as good as it could be, but I think it squeaks by
WP:GNG. Throw in her roles in Parent Trap II and A Summer to Remember, and I think its pretty much a slam dunk to keep.
Onel5969TT me 19:29, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was keep. Seems to be consensus that the subject meets
WP:GNG.
ansh666 05:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Does not appear to meet
general notability; was nominated for awards but did not actually win any. Just one
reliable source that only includes a passing mention. That sole source indicates she was 17 when she died which is different from age 21 years given in the article. Please see
article talk page for further discussion.
SagaciousPhil -
Chat 08:09, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment partially copied from article talk page to keep conversation in one place There is currently
one reference to the Colorado Springs Independent, which probably counts as a
reliable source. It is, however, a mere parenthetical sentence fragment that reads: "a year older than Savannah Smiles star Bridgette Andersen, who overdosed on heroin in 1997". Most searches turn up general celebrity sites like IMDB and Find-a-Grave and the like. There are also some biographies on sites of questionable RS status, including
Movie Pilot and
Daily Hatch. Her
WP:GNG notability is questionable. A claim of "...her internet cult following" is not supported by these searches, although it would be a qualifying claim under
WP:NACTOR#2. If there is a cult following, then it should be kept and evidence should be added to the article. Otherwise, it should be deleted.
Eggishorn(talk)(contrib) 16:19, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep I did a newspaper search and found two three newspaper articles that discuss the subject in-depth. One from 1982
1 and another from 1983 (don't have access to newspapers.com to clip it though)
2. (edit to add a third newspaper article found from 1984 from newspapers.com)
3. A few more passing mentions in newspapers.
45 While the subject didn't have a long career, she did receive more than average attention from the press during her career, along with the passing mentions regarding her sad early demise and meets the GNG in my view.
GoldenAgeFan1 (
talk) 16:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep The said newspaper articles and her IMDB page give her enough legitimacy.— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
FSOJM791 (
talk •
contribs)
Comment IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source.
Dan arndt (
talk) 09:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Child actress has starred in 21 films. Also, please note that there is some coverage of the subject in Spanish. Subject has often been mentioned in books related to child actor deaths, and there was this controversy of her death being a suicide. Other than that, no notability. Edit: Funny that
User:FSOJM791 directly started participating in deletion discussions without any other edits.
King Prithviraj II (
talk) 19:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete IMDb is not a reliable source, we lack enough reliable sources to show notablility.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 22:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep She seems to have been a notable actress for her period, and GoldenAgeFan1 demonstrated that there are published sources about her.
Dimadick (
talk) 11:44, 24 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment she was nominated for multiple awards so her peers must have thought she was notable.
Paul Benjamin Austin (
talk) 10:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep: Award-nominated child actor in a major film of its time. This is a case of pre-google age fame. Subject of more than adequate third-party coverage independent of the subject. Meets WP:GNG.
Montanabw(talk) 02:05, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment As noted, she died before the internet got into full swing which makes it hard to find out about her award-nominated notability in the dead tree era.
Paul Benjamin Austin (
talk) 02:45, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - With her roles in Savannah Smiles and Fever Pitch, she clearly passes
WP:GNG, and her role in Nightmares might also be significant, although I wouldn't base my vote on that, being more problematic. The sourcing isn't as good as it could be, but I think it squeaks by
WP:GNG. Throw in her roles in Parent Trap II and A Summer to Remember, and I think its pretty much a slam dunk to keep.
Onel5969TT me 19:29, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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