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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 16:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:MMABIO, hasn't fought in almost 9 years, and is in his late 40s marking a return to MMA competition unlikely. Coverage I've found has shown that he opened his own gym, and wrote a book, though I doubt this is enough to pass WP:GNG ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 10:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Subject passes NMMA having 3 fights in top tier promotion (1 in Strikeforce (2006) and 2 in Bellator in 2012 and 2013 where both Strikefore and ellator were considered top tier during those years).
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- Its about whether he passes GNG or not, NMMA is irrelevant here. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 10:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The important thing is that he fails to meet WP:GNG. He did have 3 top tier fights, but he lost them all and his highest ranking was #171, which is not surprising for someone who won half his fights. Listings in databases, routine fight coverage, and the bio from his gym do not count as significant independent coverage. Papaursa ( talk) 14:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete. Though NMMA is typically inclusive, there is not nearly enough for this fighter to pass WP:GNG. Spf121188 ( talk) 18:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete sports criteria clearly state that the subject must pass GNG. They exist as useful approximations of what will meet GNG, but are not always right (a few like the football criteria and the cricket criteria we actually know are way too broad, but people refuse to be reasonable about creating one that more closely approximate GNG), so when these articles come to AfD we look at GNG, and in this case the subject clearly does not pass it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, for the reasons of editor who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 16:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:MMABIO, hasn't fought in almost 9 years, and is in his late 40s marking a return to MMA competition unlikely. Coverage I've found has shown that he opened his own gym, and wrote a book, though I doubt this is enough to pass WP:GNG ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 10:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Subject passes NMMA having 3 fights in top tier promotion (1 in Strikeforce (2006) and 2 in Bellator in 2012 and 2013 where both Strikefore and ellator were considered top tier during those years).
Cassiopeia
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08:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Its about whether he passes GNG or not, NMMA is irrelevant here. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 10:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The important thing is that he fails to meet WP:GNG. He did have 3 top tier fights, but he lost them all and his highest ranking was #171, which is not surprising for someone who won half his fights. Listings in databases, routine fight coverage, and the bio from his gym do not count as significant independent coverage. Papaursa ( talk) 14:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Though NMMA is typically inclusive, there is not nearly enough for this fighter to pass WP:GNG. Spf121188 ( talk) 18:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete sports criteria clearly state that the subject must pass GNG. They exist as useful approximations of what will meet GNG, but are not always right (a few like the football criteria and the cricket criteria we actually know are way too broad, but people refuse to be reasonable about creating one that more closely approximate GNG), so when these articles come to AfD we look at GNG, and in this case the subject clearly does not pass it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, for the reasons of editor who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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