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The result was keep. Merge discussions can continue outside AfD. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Breeze Song Gao
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Article about a fairly small shopping mall, sourced largely to promotional materials and others lacking depth and/or independence. Mccapra ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: In the previous AfD discussion last month, I suggested merging with Breeze Center to create a single article about the chain. That's what zhwiki does. — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 07:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging all participants from the previous AfD discussion, which was closed as "no consensus": @ DGG, Heeheemalu, Cunard, El cid, el campeador, NemesisAT, and Jumpytoo: — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 07:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Here are the sources
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contribs) included in the article:
- "(Chinese)微風松高開幕 估首日1500萬元". Taiwan News.
- "(Chinese)微風松高開幕 出動86名模特兒". Apple Daily News.
- "(Chinese)微風松高進駐信義區 吸客漩渦打造共榮圈". www.cardu.com.tw.
- "(Chinese)藏壽司微風松高店11月26號開幕". www.tw-tw.com.tw.
- Comment I don’t accept that those sources do in fact provide independent and in depth coverage. Taiwan News, Apple Daily News and tw-tw are launch pr for the mall regurgitated as churnalism. The best source here seems to be the cardu.com piece which provides some depth and critical comparison, though what its standing is as a reliable source, I don’t know. I mean what we learn from these sources is mainly that 86 models danced around the the new store for an hour and there’s a special promotion on Kumquat Pickled Raw Salmon to mark the opening. You’d get this kind of nonsense for the opening of every new garden centre. It doesn’t show notability. Mccapra ( talk) 11:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Breeze Center is about a shopping center in Songshan District, Taipei, Taiwan, while Breeze Song Gao is about a shopping mall in Xinyi District, Taipei, Taiwan. They likely are part of the same chain. I don't think Breeze Song Gao can be merged to Breeze Center without there being undue weight issues. I would be fine with a merge to a single article covering all branches of the chain but as a chain article does not currently exist, I support retention over deletion since the subject meets Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard ( talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep agree per Cunard. VocalIndia ( talk) 18:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merger of this and related articles into a single one about a chain of malls has been proposed; relisting to allow discussion of this option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Merger of this and related articles into a single one about a chain of malls has been proposed; relisting to allow discussion of this option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Merge discussions can continue outside AfD. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Breeze Song Gao
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Article about a fairly small shopping mall, sourced largely to promotional materials and others lacking depth and/or independence. Mccapra ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. Mccapra ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Mccapra ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Mccapra ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: In the previous AfD discussion last month, I suggested merging with Breeze Center to create a single article about the chain. That's what zhwiki does. — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 07:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging all participants from the previous AfD discussion, which was closed as "no consensus": @ DGG, Heeheemalu, Cunard, El cid, el campeador, NemesisAT, and Jumpytoo: — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 07:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Here are the sources
Heeheemalu (
talk ·
contribs) included in the article:
- "(Chinese)微風松高開幕 估首日1500萬元". Taiwan News.
- "(Chinese)微風松高開幕 出動86名模特兒". Apple Daily News.
- "(Chinese)微風松高進駐信義區 吸客漩渦打造共榮圈". www.cardu.com.tw.
- "(Chinese)藏壽司微風松高店11月26號開幕". www.tw-tw.com.tw.
- Comment I don’t accept that those sources do in fact provide independent and in depth coverage. Taiwan News, Apple Daily News and tw-tw are launch pr for the mall regurgitated as churnalism. The best source here seems to be the cardu.com piece which provides some depth and critical comparison, though what its standing is as a reliable source, I don’t know. I mean what we learn from these sources is mainly that 86 models danced around the the new store for an hour and there’s a special promotion on Kumquat Pickled Raw Salmon to mark the opening. You’d get this kind of nonsense for the opening of every new garden centre. It doesn’t show notability. Mccapra ( talk) 11:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Breeze Center is about a shopping center in Songshan District, Taipei, Taiwan, while Breeze Song Gao is about a shopping mall in Xinyi District, Taipei, Taiwan. They likely are part of the same chain. I don't think Breeze Song Gao can be merged to Breeze Center without there being undue weight issues. I would be fine with a merge to a single article covering all branches of the chain but as a chain article does not currently exist, I support retention over deletion since the subject meets Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard ( talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 08:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 08:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep agree per Cunard. VocalIndia ( talk) 18:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merger of this and related articles into a single one about a chain of malls has been proposed; relisting to allow discussion of this option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Merger of this and related articles into a single one about a chain of malls has been proposed; relisting to allow discussion of this option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.