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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:14, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Boris, Prince of Turnovo
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I'm proposing this article for deletion for the simple reason of lacking any real independent notability (at the present time) for an article. Though this may be a grandson of a presently far more notable person – being both a former monarch and prime minister – this article is about a private citizen. None of the information on the article is cited and nothing more can be said about him than that he was born. He may be a member of a former royal family but Bulgaria is no longer a monarchy for that to be of relevance. It is possible that because of who he is attention may be given to him in the future but presently this is not the case. Even the given article title "Prince of Turnovo" is uncited Re5x ( talk) 12:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Heir to the Bulgarian throne. Whether Bulgaria still officially has a monarchy or not, this is a big deal. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep,
tentatively,per Necrothesp. There certainly is a presumption of notability by being the heir to the defunct Bulgarian throne. There are five sources at the Bulgarian version of the article, which might be reliabe. [1]. At the very least, the content should not be deleted but should be merged to the article of his father, Kardam, Prince of Turnovo if there are insufficient sources to establish notability. ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 17:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)- This Spanish source, from El Mundo (Spain) seems to be RS and is an in-depth piece on Boris, same with this piece from La Razón (Madrid). Simeon's own website confirms his title as well [2] Presumeably more European sources (who knew countries with monarchies are interested in dynasts?), including Bulgarian ones exist. Based on the sources above, this looks like it would meet the WP:GNG. ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 18:03, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I don't consider him notable, but suspect he does fall within the notability guidelines. Power~enwiki ( talk) 06:47, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep heir to an abolished monarchy of the 20th century, experience indicates that the main dynastic events and kinships involving him will garner media coverage over his lifetime, as attested in the sources I've just added to the article." FactStraight ( talk) 04:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:14, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Boris, Prince of Turnovo
- Boris, Prince of Turnovo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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I'm proposing this article for deletion for the simple reason of lacking any real independent notability (at the present time) for an article. Though this may be a grandson of a presently far more notable person – being both a former monarch and prime minister – this article is about a private citizen. None of the information on the article is cited and nothing more can be said about him than that he was born. He may be a member of a former royal family but Bulgaria is no longer a monarchy for that to be of relevance. It is possible that because of who he is attention may be given to him in the future but presently this is not the case. Even the given article title "Prince of Turnovo" is uncited Re5x ( talk) 12:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Heir to the Bulgarian throne. Whether Bulgaria still officially has a monarchy or not, this is a big deal. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep,
tentatively,per Necrothesp. There certainly is a presumption of notability by being the heir to the defunct Bulgarian throne. There are five sources at the Bulgarian version of the article, which might be reliabe. [1]. At the very least, the content should not be deleted but should be merged to the article of his father, Kardam, Prince of Turnovo if there are insufficient sources to establish notability. ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 17:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)- This Spanish source, from El Mundo (Spain) seems to be RS and is an in-depth piece on Boris, same with this piece from La Razón (Madrid). Simeon's own website confirms his title as well [2] Presumeably more European sources (who knew countries with monarchies are interested in dynasts?), including Bulgarian ones exist. Based on the sources above, this looks like it would meet the WP:GNG. ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 18:03, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I don't consider him notable, but suspect he does fall within the notability guidelines. Power~enwiki ( talk) 06:47, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 04:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 04:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep heir to an abolished monarchy of the 20th century, experience indicates that the main dynastic events and kinships involving him will garner media coverage over his lifetime, as attested in the sources I've just added to the article." FactStraight ( talk) 04:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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