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The result was no consensus. There is a valid question of whether identified coverage is in enough depth, which is an ongoing issue with awards. Is the award notable, the award it's in honor of, and or the recipient. There is no doubt that Bowden is notable but we do not have a clear consensus here that sourcing is enough. With two input-free relists, I don't see a third helping provide clarity here. Star Mississippi 02:08, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Bobby Bowden National Collegiate Coach of the Year Award
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All sources are WP:PRIMARY. No secondary sourcing found Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Sports, American football, and Alabama. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- keep a whole lotta news sources to cite, they just need to be put in the article. This is an editing issue and not a deletion issue. Passess
WP:GNG.--
Paul McDonald (
talk) 00:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every single one I found is just "X won the Bobby Bowden award". That's not WP:SIGCOV. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep All sources in the article are primary, but I found a few on the first page of Google results.
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Muboshgu (
talk) 00:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every single one of those is just a variant of "X won the award". How is that significant coverage when literally the only thing it says about the award is that it was won? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete semi-notable award (at best), with only WP:ROUTINE and WP:PRIMARY coverage. I could potentially support creation of an article for the Over the Mountain Touchdown Club with the content of this article being merged there, (as the similar Woody Hayes Trophy redirects to Touchdown Club of Columbus) if there is enough WP:RS to support that article. However, this is not the forum for creation of that page. Frank Anchor 18:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As mentioned, there are other sources to add to flesh out the page, and while I understand the concerns about the sources not doing a deep dive on the award itself, isn't that kind of the nature with awards? This is coverage specifically that a coach won the award, it's not like articles get routinely written about the awards themselves outside of something world-famous like the Oscars or Grammys. -
fuzzy510 (
talk) 00:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- But being written about is what qualifies a subject to have an article on Wikipedia. 174.212.227.174 ( talk) 22:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe ( talk) 12:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There is a valid question of whether identified coverage is in enough depth, which is an ongoing issue with awards. Is the award notable, the award it's in honor of, and or the recipient. There is no doubt that Bowden is notable but we do not have a clear consensus here that sourcing is enough. With two input-free relists, I don't see a third helping provide clarity here. Star Mississippi 02:08, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Bobby Bowden National Collegiate Coach of the Year Award
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- Bobby Bowden National Collegiate Coach of the Year Award ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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All sources are WP:PRIMARY. No secondary sourcing found Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Sports, American football, and Alabama. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- keep a whole lotta news sources to cite, they just need to be put in the article. This is an editing issue and not a deletion issue. Passess
WP:GNG.--
Paul McDonald (
talk) 00:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every single one I found is just "X won the Bobby Bowden award". That's not WP:SIGCOV. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep All sources in the article are primary, but I found a few on the first page of Google results.
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5] –
Muboshgu (
talk) 00:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every single one of those is just a variant of "X won the award". How is that significant coverage when literally the only thing it says about the award is that it was won? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete semi-notable award (at best), with only WP:ROUTINE and WP:PRIMARY coverage. I could potentially support creation of an article for the Over the Mountain Touchdown Club with the content of this article being merged there, (as the similar Woody Hayes Trophy redirects to Touchdown Club of Columbus) if there is enough WP:RS to support that article. However, this is not the forum for creation of that page. Frank Anchor 18:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As mentioned, there are other sources to add to flesh out the page, and while I understand the concerns about the sources not doing a deep dive on the award itself, isn't that kind of the nature with awards? This is coverage specifically that a coach won the award, it's not like articles get routinely written about the awards themselves outside of something world-famous like the Oscars or Grammys. -
fuzzy510 (
talk) 00:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- But being written about is what qualifies a subject to have an article on Wikipedia. 174.212.227.174 ( talk) 22:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe ( talk) 12:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.