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The result was withdrawn. No need to keep this open when it will clearly be flooded with Grande stans voting keep. There is indeed some charting information and the album is recent so I'll withdraw this nom and give people a chance to improve these articles. If one/two years pass and they've still not outgrown their current stub status then I'll renominate them.-- N Ø 08:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Better off (Ariana Grande song)

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Fails WP:NSONGS in my opinion. Pretty much every song from the album made some national charts but that doesn't mean an article for them is needed. The following songs (including "better off") have no sources independently covering them:

Note that album tracks " R.E.M" and " Get Well Soon" also have articles but I'm not nominating them for deletion currently because they got some independent coverage (The former for being a Beyonce reject and the latter for being about Manchester). N Ø 15:40, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply

I thought that creating a Wikipedia page for "Better Off" would be a good thing, because it is about a toxic relationship and is alluded that it's about Mac Miller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGNARUTO ( talkcontribs) 15:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC) I don't know how to sign my note. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGNARUTO ( talkcontribs) 15:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Most songs are written about someone, that does not indicate that they are notable. For example she literally has a song called "pete davidson" which is about a relationship too, but doesn't have an article since it isn't notable.-- N Ø 15:57, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep at least "Sweetener" and close this discussion. These articles should have been nominated separately. "Sweetener" should be kept for sure. I don't feel strongly about "Better Off" or "Everytime" -- feel free to redirect. I strongly recommend closing this discussion and nominating articles separately, so notability can be assessed individually. @ MaranoFan: In the future, try redirecting articles, especially before starting a nomination covering multiple articles. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:40, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I would agree that it would be best to handle each song individually with their own AfD rather than a group one so the reviewers can adequately provide feedback for each. Aoba47 ( talk) 00:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn. No need to keep this open when it will clearly be flooded with Grande stans voting keep. There is indeed some charting information and the album is recent so I'll withdraw this nom and give people a chance to improve these articles. If one/two years pass and they've still not outgrown their current stub status then I'll renominate them.-- N Ø 08:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Better off (Ariana Grande song)

Better off (Ariana Grande song) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NSONGS in my opinion. Pretty much every song from the album made some national charts but that doesn't mean an article for them is needed. The following songs (including "better off") have no sources independently covering them:

Note that album tracks " R.E.M" and " Get Well Soon" also have articles but I'm not nominating them for deletion currently because they got some independent coverage (The former for being a Beyonce reject and the latter for being about Manchester). N Ø 15:40, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply

I thought that creating a Wikipedia page for "Better Off" would be a good thing, because it is about a toxic relationship and is alluded that it's about Mac Miller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGNARUTO ( talkcontribs) 15:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC) I don't know how to sign my note. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGNARUTO ( talkcontribs) 15:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Most songs are written about someone, that does not indicate that they are notable. For example she literally has a song called "pete davidson" which is about a relationship too, but doesn't have an article since it isn't notable.-- N Ø 15:57, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep at least "Sweetener" and close this discussion. These articles should have been nominated separately. "Sweetener" should be kept for sure. I don't feel strongly about "Better Off" or "Everytime" -- feel free to redirect. I strongly recommend closing this discussion and nominating articles separately, so notability can be assessed individually. @ MaranoFan: In the future, try redirecting articles, especially before starting a nomination covering multiple articles. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:40, 19 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I would agree that it would be best to handle each song individually with their own AfD rather than a group one so the reviewers can adequately provide feedback for each. Aoba47 ( talk) 00:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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