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The result was delete. Well analyzed. Mojo Hand ( talk) 16:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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Newmark seems to be not noteable, as there is only 1 separate source (ie that she did not have a hand in) that is used in the article. It currently has been vandalized by an IP, but if you look at before the IP came along ( here) it's very much so a short, poorly-sourced article. Isro! ( talk) 18:55, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Women. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, though the Washington Post article would have briefly given her some sort of profile, I can't find any evidence of anything else online about her. She's been active in the internet age, on the internet, so it's not as if we'd expect lots of (solely) offine sources. Sionk ( talk) 22:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep I find her quoted extensively on the New York Times "Opinionator" blog example other example. She was also one of the "opinion experts" queried for dozens of National Journal articles (example: A Direct Hit Or A Glancing Blow On Nominees? National Journal: Web Edition Articles (USA). February 5, 2009. Accessed March 18, 2022. - behind EBSCO paywall). She is mentioned in an academic article about "PC speech" ( Kitrosser, H., 2016. Free speech, higher education, and the PC narrative. Minn. L. Rev., 101, p.1987.) So during her time she was considered an influential right-wing blogger. But I don't find anything substantially about her. Lamona ( talk) 15:43, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The WaPo article probably counts for something, but it doesn't get her across the notability threshold on its own, particularly since it's mostly just the result of an interview. The other sources available, which seem to be little more than single-sentence passing mentions or quotes, don't move the needle for me: they clearly aren't significant coverage for purposes of the GNG, and I feel that the "regarded as an important figure" or "won significant critical attention" prongs of WP:NAUTHOR require a bit more than the occasional quotation. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 23:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with Extraodinary Writ. Mentions in NYT blogs aren't enough to make someone an important figure. Besides the NYT blogs, the WP article, and a few mentions in local newspapers, I'm not seeing any significant coverage. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Well analyzed. Mojo Hand ( talk) 16:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Betsy Newmark
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Newmark seems to be not noteable, as there is only 1 separate source (ie that she did not have a hand in) that is used in the article. It currently has been vandalized by an IP, but if you look at before the IP came along ( here) it's very much so a short, poorly-sourced article. Isro! ( talk) 18:55, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Women. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, though the Washington Post article would have briefly given her some sort of profile, I can't find any evidence of anything else online about her. She's been active in the internet age, on the internet, so it's not as if we'd expect lots of (solely) offine sources. Sionk ( talk) 22:26, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep I find her quoted extensively on the New York Times "Opinionator" blog example other example. She was also one of the "opinion experts" queried for dozens of National Journal articles (example: A Direct Hit Or A Glancing Blow On Nominees? National Journal: Web Edition Articles (USA). February 5, 2009. Accessed March 18, 2022. - behind EBSCO paywall). She is mentioned in an academic article about "PC speech" ( Kitrosser, H., 2016. Free speech, higher education, and the PC narrative. Minn. L. Rev., 101, p.1987.) So during her time she was considered an influential right-wing blogger. But I don't find anything substantially about her. Lamona ( talk) 15:43, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The WaPo article probably counts for something, but it doesn't get her across the notability threshold on its own, particularly since it's mostly just the result of an interview. The other sources available, which seem to be little more than single-sentence passing mentions or quotes, don't move the needle for me: they clearly aren't significant coverage for purposes of the GNG, and I feel that the "regarded as an important figure" or "won significant critical attention" prongs of WP:NAUTHOR require a bit more than the occasional quotation. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 23:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with Extraodinary Writ. Mentions in NYT blogs aren't enough to make someone an important figure. Besides the NYT blogs, the WP article, and a few mentions in local newspapers, I'm not seeing any significant coverage. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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