- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was TNT delete, because of issues such as verifiability and concerns about hoaxing. As with any other TNT-deleted page about an obviously notable subject, creation of a new page about Bertha is welcome. Nyttend ( talk) 14:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Bertha, Florida
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Created by user as part of a series of questionable edits creating non-existent places in Illinois and Florida. The USGS link actually takes you to the page on Slavia, Florida, a real place, with no mention of Bertha. Smartyllama ( talk) 17:05, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:07, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete with WP:TNT. This follows the same pattern as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Innisbrook, Florida. 1. Start with a real populated place (GNIS 294680). 2. Move the location. 3. Add bogus citations. 4. Add large amounts of unsourced and dubious information. This is part a string of 90% hoax articles. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep real place, USGS recognized, I found the link with a little search. Yes, it had a false link, now it has a real one. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT. It's a real place, but sorting the real information from the fake is tricky enough that we might as well start a new article from scratch. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 00:50, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable community with no available sourcing. Meinnaples ( talk) 13:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, it is a USGS populated place listed in GNIS, but all that means is it was a dot on a map. The location has no boundary. There is no CDP with that name and there is no mention of Bertha on the county website. The map boundaries ( File:BerthaFlorida.png) that were added for it appear to be completely made up. The basemap, that the uploader copied but neglected to credit, ( c:File:Seminole County Florida Incorporated and Unincorporated Areas.svg) was based on Census maps and shows that area as unincorporated. Namesake item is uncited for a person that lived 150 miles away from this location. -- Dual Freq ( talk) 22:15, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as there's still been questionability about the factual information here, best deleted until a convincing case can be started again. SwisterTwister talk 18:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was TNT delete, because of issues such as verifiability and concerns about hoaxing. As with any other TNT-deleted page about an obviously notable subject, creation of a new page about Bertha is welcome. Nyttend ( talk) 14:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Bertha, Florida
- Bertha, Florida ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Created by user as part of a series of questionable edits creating non-existent places in Illinois and Florida. The USGS link actually takes you to the page on Slavia, Florida, a real place, with no mention of Bertha. Smartyllama ( talk) 17:05, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:07, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete with WP:TNT. This follows the same pattern as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Innisbrook, Florida. 1. Start with a real populated place (GNIS 294680). 2. Move the location. 3. Add bogus citations. 4. Add large amounts of unsourced and dubious information. This is part a string of 90% hoax articles. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep real place, USGS recognized, I found the link with a little search. Yes, it had a false link, now it has a real one. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TNT. It's a real place, but sorting the real information from the fake is tricky enough that we might as well start a new article from scratch. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 00:50, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable community with no available sourcing. Meinnaples ( talk) 13:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, it is a USGS populated place listed in GNIS, but all that means is it was a dot on a map. The location has no boundary. There is no CDP with that name and there is no mention of Bertha on the county website. The map boundaries ( File:BerthaFlorida.png) that were added for it appear to be completely made up. The basemap, that the uploader copied but neglected to credit, ( c:File:Seminole County Florida Incorporated and Unincorporated Areas.svg) was based on Census maps and shows that area as unincorporated. Namesake item is uncited for a person that lived 150 miles away from this location. -- Dual Freq ( talk) 22:15, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as there's still been questionability about the factual information here, best deleted until a convincing case can be started again. SwisterTwister talk 18:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.