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The result was keep. WP:SNOW keep, withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 13:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Bert and Bertie
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Failed WP:SIGCOV References are generally primary, routine announcements for directors who have been in the mainstream for a year. scope_creep Talk 01:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep GNG is met by references 2 and 3. Some of the others are as characterized by the nom, but GNG is met regardless. Jclemens ( talk) 04:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ref 2 is a profile and is on one those clickbait x of y sites, that are used to drive adrvertising. It is a short profile. The 3rd reference is the only reference on that page.
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- Reference 2 is from Variety, which is a reliable source as per WP:VARIETY NHCLS ( talk) 13:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ref 2 is a profile and is on one those clickbait x of y sites, that are used to drive adrvertising. It is a short profile. The 3rd reference is the only reference on that page.
scope_creep
Talk 12:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I think WP:GNG is met well enough for notability. I can also find a couple more sources that don't seem to have been used in the article, like In The Studio: Bert And Bertie, Preston Waters makes a splash with ‘Lucidity’, and Hawkeye Directors on Breaking the Marvel Mold With Barton and Bishop's Buddy-Cop Comedy. NHCLS ( talk) 13:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Quality of sources don't seem to bother you. That first one is an annoucement and is not independent. The 2nd one Bertie, part of directing duo Bert and Bertie, told GamesRadar+ isn't independent either, it is part interview, all indicative of an very early careers. They are either reported in new annoucements of work, or connected to somebody else's context. They're isn't more than 1 secondary source here. That is the whole point of the Afd. scope_creep Talk 14:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - The two sources from WP:VARIETY and one from WP:THR meet the standard of WP:GNG. These are industry magazines for the industry they work in, so clearly they are considered notable in their own business. -- Krelnik ( talk) 20:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Welll I've done my bit for Blighty. I thought it was far too sono since they have been in the mainstream for less than a year and done sweet FA. How notability standards have dropped. Nomination Withdrawn. scope_creep Talk 21:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. WP:SNOW keep, withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 13:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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Failed WP:SIGCOV References are generally primary, routine announcements for directors who have been in the mainstream for a year. scope_creep Talk 01:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep GNG is met by references 2 and 3. Some of the others are as characterized by the nom, but GNG is met regardless. Jclemens ( talk) 04:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ref 2 is a profile and is on one those clickbait x of y sites, that are used to drive adrvertising. It is a short profile. The 3rd reference is the only reference on that page.
scope_creep
Talk 12:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Reference 2 is from Variety, which is a reliable source as per WP:VARIETY NHCLS ( talk) 13:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ref 2 is a profile and is on one those clickbait x of y sites, that are used to drive adrvertising. It is a short profile. The 3rd reference is the only reference on that page.
scope_creep
Talk 12:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I think WP:GNG is met well enough for notability. I can also find a couple more sources that don't seem to have been used in the article, like In The Studio: Bert And Bertie, Preston Waters makes a splash with ‘Lucidity’, and Hawkeye Directors on Breaking the Marvel Mold With Barton and Bishop's Buddy-Cop Comedy. NHCLS ( talk) 13:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Quality of sources don't seem to bother you. That first one is an annoucement and is not independent. The 2nd one Bertie, part of directing duo Bert and Bertie, told GamesRadar+ isn't independent either, it is part interview, all indicative of an very early careers. They are either reported in new annoucements of work, or connected to somebody else's context. They're isn't more than 1 secondary source here. That is the whole point of the Afd. scope_creep Talk 14:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - The two sources from WP:VARIETY and one from WP:THR meet the standard of WP:GNG. These are industry magazines for the industry they work in, so clearly they are considered notable in their own business. -- Krelnik ( talk) 20:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Welll I've done my bit for Blighty. I thought it was far too sono since they have been in the mainstream for less than a year and done sweet FA. How notability standards have dropped. Nomination Withdrawn. scope_creep Talk 21:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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