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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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reads like advertising not notable person with fake sources Likiacc ( talk) 23:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've been searching and while it gives me pause that a series of single purpose accounts keep slapping PRODs and AfDs on this article I am unable to find any evidence that anything in this article is true. There is an IMDB entry here but anyone can make one of those which is why IMDB isn't a reliable source. The idea that this person starting composing for film when they were fourteen? Not impossible but unlikely. I grabbed two references at random and ran them through google translate and neither of them actually mention "Javad Safaee". Notfrompedro ( talk) 23:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are several that do mention Javad - but it is hard to evaluate their reliability. The article in the Tehran Times does mention him
[1], as does
this Borna News article. I think the Tehran Times may be reliable, the Borna News is much harder to evaluate. The cited Huffington Post article, on the other hand, does not mention him, which is concerning. We probably need some experts in Farsi sources to help us understand which, if any, of the genuine sources, are reliable.
Laplorfill (
talk)
23:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Could @ Likiacc: or @ Ki arostamicc: explain why they believe the sources in the article are fake? Laplorfill ( talk) 23:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Tehrantimes is not reliable at all everybody give money to have a post there. as low as 50 dollars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehdimalikian ( talk • contribs)
{yo|Ki arostamicc}} God sake just search "Javad Safaee" in google. All of his photos are fake and photoshopped ridiculously. He has the same head in his photos. He is absolutely fake and also please look at the sources absolutely fake. All of them have been bought. ( talk) 23:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Likiacc ( talk • contribs)
I think some of the news is credible and some recent users who have posted comments have their accounts created to post fake comments. Like Mehdimalikian and Likiacc.Also, translating with Google is not enough translation and one should not make vain judgments. 5.125.109.187 ( talk) 01:11, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
This artist is well known and has been endorsed on social media.
Source:
Facebook,
Spotify,
Apple Music
Babakbaris (
talk)
02:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- None of those are reliable sources though. And if you remove the AfD tag from the article again, you'll be blocked from editing. Laplorfill ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- THIS PAGE IS REPRESENTING A FAKE PERSON, THIS PERSON FIRST CAME UP WITH HIS NAME AS YOU CAN SEE HERE
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion/Requests/2021/Javad_Safaee THEN HE IS COMING UP WITH FAKE SOURCES TO PROPEL US to BELIVE THAT HE IS NOTABLE, BUT HE IS NOT NOTABLE. Mehdimalikian ( talk) 21:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mehdimalikian: please do not write your comments in UPPER CASE. This is taken as shouting, and does nothing to produce a collaborative, productive discussion. Thanks, Laplorfill ( talk) 22:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete after careful consideration, and looking in-depth at the evidence presented here and in the article, I believe the article should be deleted. There are no reliable sources available to demonstrate that the subject meets WP:GNG. This may even be a full-on hoax. At best it is a non-notable subject whose details cannot be verified. Laplorfill ( talk) 22:51, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, this seems to be full of fake citations, some of which (e.g. HuffPost) do not even mention Bcoo/Javad Safaee at all. Borna News does mention Javad Safaee as "the father of the invention of industrial and traditional style in pop music and is a singer and arranger born on January 3rd in Torbat-e Heydarieh" (via Google Translate), and the Maanews article includes his name in a list of actors, but none mention the award nomination which is in the text adjacent to these citations. The page creator Babakbaris ( talk · contribs) deserves at least a final warning, if not immediate blocking as not here to build the encyclopedia. – Fayenatic London 10:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete My look at existing references and search for references, match existing comments and votes, probable Hoax, if not then clearly fails WP:N Jeepday ( talk) 17:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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reads like advertising not notable person with fake sources Likiacc ( talk) 23:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've been searching and while it gives me pause that a series of single purpose accounts keep slapping PRODs and AfDs on this article I am unable to find any evidence that anything in this article is true. There is an IMDB entry here but anyone can make one of those which is why IMDB isn't a reliable source. The idea that this person starting composing for film when they were fourteen? Not impossible but unlikely. I grabbed two references at random and ran them through google translate and neither of them actually mention "Javad Safaee". Notfrompedro ( talk) 23:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are several that do mention Javad - but it is hard to evaluate their reliability. The article in the Tehran Times does mention him
[1], as does
this Borna News article. I think the Tehran Times may be reliable, the Borna News is much harder to evaluate. The cited Huffington Post article, on the other hand, does not mention him, which is concerning. We probably need some experts in Farsi sources to help us understand which, if any, of the genuine sources, are reliable.
Laplorfill (
talk)
23:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Could @ Likiacc: or @ Ki arostamicc: explain why they believe the sources in the article are fake? Laplorfill ( talk) 23:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Tehrantimes is not reliable at all everybody give money to have a post there. as low as 50 dollars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehdimalikian ( talk • contribs)
{yo|Ki arostamicc}} God sake just search "Javad Safaee" in google. All of his photos are fake and photoshopped ridiculously. He has the same head in his photos. He is absolutely fake and also please look at the sources absolutely fake. All of them have been bought. ( talk) 23:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Likiacc ( talk • contribs)
I think some of the news is credible and some recent users who have posted comments have their accounts created to post fake comments. Like Mehdimalikian and Likiacc.Also, translating with Google is not enough translation and one should not make vain judgments. 5.125.109.187 ( talk) 01:11, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
This artist is well known and has been endorsed on social media.
Source:
Facebook,
Spotify,
Apple Music
Babakbaris (
talk)
02:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- None of those are reliable sources though. And if you remove the AfD tag from the article again, you'll be blocked from editing. Laplorfill ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- THIS PAGE IS REPRESENTING A FAKE PERSON, THIS PERSON FIRST CAME UP WITH HIS NAME AS YOU CAN SEE HERE
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion/Requests/2021/Javad_Safaee THEN HE IS COMING UP WITH FAKE SOURCES TO PROPEL US to BELIVE THAT HE IS NOTABLE, BUT HE IS NOT NOTABLE. Mehdimalikian ( talk) 21:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mehdimalikian: please do not write your comments in UPPER CASE. This is taken as shouting, and does nothing to produce a collaborative, productive discussion. Thanks, Laplorfill ( talk) 22:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete after careful consideration, and looking in-depth at the evidence presented here and in the article, I believe the article should be deleted. There are no reliable sources available to demonstrate that the subject meets WP:GNG. This may even be a full-on hoax. At best it is a non-notable subject whose details cannot be verified. Laplorfill ( talk) 22:51, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, this seems to be full of fake citations, some of which (e.g. HuffPost) do not even mention Bcoo/Javad Safaee at all. Borna News does mention Javad Safaee as "the father of the invention of industrial and traditional style in pop music and is a singer and arranger born on January 3rd in Torbat-e Heydarieh" (via Google Translate), and the Maanews article includes his name in a list of actors, but none mention the award nomination which is in the text adjacent to these citations. The page creator Babakbaris ( talk · contribs) deserves at least a final warning, if not immediate blocking as not here to build the encyclopedia. – Fayenatic London 10:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delete My look at existing references and search for references, match existing comments and votes, probable Hoax, if not then clearly fails WP:N Jeepday ( talk) 17:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.