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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 21:51, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a writer and anthropologist, not properly sourced as passing our notability standards for writers or anthropologists. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs -- the notability test requires some evidence of her significance, such as winning noteworthy awards and/or having enough reliable source coverage about her to clear WP:GNG. But the only notability claim in evidence here is that she exists, and the only references being cited at all are her primary source staff profiles on the self-published websites of organizations she's been directly affiliated with, which are not notability-supporting sources. Bearcat ( talk) 17:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable academic. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment an academic with several citations in Wikipedia, with probably the biggest contribution in uncovering the story of Yogmaya Neupane to the public and formation of RAWI, both of which have their own articles in Wikipedia. Expansion is definitely needed but deletion citing non-notable is unwarranted. User:NirSharma13 ( talk) 4:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reply: As far as I can see, I really do feel that with enough resesarch and expansion, the entry will indeed easily fulfill the standards mentioned in WP:GNG. I have researched some topics in Google Scholar and have already read two of her book, plus other books that openly cite here, which leads to me confidently believe that this is indeed an article that belongs to be in Wikipedia, even if just the WP:ACADEMIC is considered. User:NirSharma13 ( talk) 23:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I understand that you feel that way (I also feel the subject is notable), but it would be more persuasive if you provided links to reliable, independent sources that demonstrate notability. Note that the subject doesn't have to satisfy all the subject-specific guidelines: any one is sufficient. But evidence is necessary. pburka ( talk) 18:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - is heavily contradictory of WP:RS. AnimaniacsFanatic ( talk) 11:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The creator says that the article is a stub. Let's give the person some time to complete the article. I find significant-looking reviews of her work in JSTOR academic journals so there are sources that can be added. Lamona ( talk) 06:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Lamona. At least two of her books have been reviewed and cited widely enough to satisfy WP:NBOOK. Tibetan Frontier Families ( Chakrabarti, Hitchcock, Clarke and Goldstein) and Swimming Up the Tigris ( Al-Mohammad, Rubin and Alexander). An author doesn't necessarily inherit notability from her books, but it's a good indicator. pburka ( talk) 23:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 04:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Keep In its current state it needs to be edited. I say we give the creator time to complete the article to demonstrate notability. I believe WP:NBOOK is the best opportunity for notability. Bioforce12 ( talk) 22:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Blocked sock. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 23:12, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. I've added a "Works" section to the page, listing her notable books (and one chapter, her memoir), along with a representative review of each. More reviews are easily found for all of these. I think this demonstrates that she's notable per WP:NAUTHOR#1. pburka ( talk) 00:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Pburka – multiple reviews in academic journals are sufficient to satisfy point 3 of WP:AUTHOR. – Arms & Hearts ( talk) 22:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 21:51, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Barbara Nimri Aziz
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WP:BLP of a writer and anthropologist, not properly sourced as passing our notability standards for writers or anthropologists. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs -- the notability test requires some evidence of her significance, such as winning noteworthy awards and/or having enough reliable source coverage about her to clear WP:GNG. But the only notability claim in evidence here is that she exists, and the only references being cited at all are her primary source staff profiles on the self-published websites of organizations she's been directly affiliated with, which are not notability-supporting sources. Bearcat ( talk) 17:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:47, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable academic. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment an academic with several citations in Wikipedia, with probably the biggest contribution in uncovering the story of Yogmaya Neupane to the public and formation of RAWI, both of which have their own articles in Wikipedia. Expansion is definitely needed but deletion citing non-notable is unwarranted. User:NirSharma13 ( talk) 4:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reply: As far as I can see, I really do feel that with enough resesarch and expansion, the entry will indeed easily fulfill the standards mentioned in WP:GNG. I have researched some topics in Google Scholar and have already read two of her book, plus other books that openly cite here, which leads to me confidently believe that this is indeed an article that belongs to be in Wikipedia, even if just the WP:ACADEMIC is considered. User:NirSharma13 ( talk) 23:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I understand that you feel that way (I also feel the subject is notable), but it would be more persuasive if you provided links to reliable, independent sources that demonstrate notability. Note that the subject doesn't have to satisfy all the subject-specific guidelines: any one is sufficient. But evidence is necessary. pburka ( talk) 18:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - is heavily contradictory of WP:RS. AnimaniacsFanatic ( talk) 11:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The creator says that the article is a stub. Let's give the person some time to complete the article. I find significant-looking reviews of her work in JSTOR academic journals so there are sources that can be added. Lamona ( talk) 06:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Lamona. At least two of her books have been reviewed and cited widely enough to satisfy WP:NBOOK. Tibetan Frontier Families ( Chakrabarti, Hitchcock, Clarke and Goldstein) and Swimming Up the Tigris ( Al-Mohammad, Rubin and Alexander). An author doesn't necessarily inherit notability from her books, but it's a good indicator. pburka ( talk) 23:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 04:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 04:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Keep In its current state it needs to be edited. I say we give the creator time to complete the article to demonstrate notability. I believe WP:NBOOK is the best opportunity for notability. Bioforce12 ( talk) 22:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Blocked sock. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 23:12, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. I've added a "Works" section to the page, listing her notable books (and one chapter, her memoir), along with a representative review of each. More reviews are easily found for all of these. I think this demonstrates that she's notable per WP:NAUTHOR#1. pburka ( talk) 00:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Pburka – multiple reviews in academic journals are sufficient to satisfy point 3 of WP:AUTHOR. – Arms & Hearts ( talk) 22:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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