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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Pamzeis ( talk) 11:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Barbara De Fina
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I couldn't actually find reliable news coverage of De Fina. The claims to notability are twofold: the marriage to Scorsese (notability isn't inherited, so that's no good), and her being a producer. I just don't see how she meets WP:PRODUCER however. She's not a co-creator, her body of work is not particularly impressive, and she doesn't meet the other criteria. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep There is some coverage of her available but none of it reliable, as far as I can tell, which makes her a WP:GNG fail. Regarding WP:PRODUCER, the only criterion she might meet is 3. The question is whether her role on notable films like Goodfellas was big enough to merit the term "co-creator". For Goodfellas the term does not seem warranted since Irwin Winkler is credited in most sources as the producer. But for some other films (e.g. Casino and The Age of Innocence) she acted as the lead producer. In view of this, I think she meets WP:PRODUCER. Modussiccandi ( talk) 20:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep I have made edits to the article, it now has sources and a list of her awards, as well as an EL. Because of her multiple award wins and nominations, and per the earlier comments, I agree that she meets WP:PRODUCER. I have found other sources that show her significance, for instance Charlie Rose has interviewed her (by herself, not with Scorcese) twice. There are other video links that would be useful but would take some time to go through. So I vote keep. -- Krelnik ( talk) 00:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Pamzeis ( talk) 11:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Barbara De Fina
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I couldn't actually find reliable news coverage of De Fina. The claims to notability are twofold: the marriage to Scorsese (notability isn't inherited, so that's no good), and her being a producer. I just don't see how she meets WP:PRODUCER however. She's not a co-creator, her body of work is not particularly impressive, and she doesn't meet the other criteria. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep There is some coverage of her available but none of it reliable, as far as I can tell, which makes her a WP:GNG fail. Regarding WP:PRODUCER, the only criterion she might meet is 3. The question is whether her role on notable films like Goodfellas was big enough to merit the term "co-creator". For Goodfellas the term does not seem warranted since Irwin Winkler is credited in most sources as the producer. But for some other films (e.g. Casino and The Age of Innocence) she acted as the lead producer. In view of this, I think she meets WP:PRODUCER. Modussiccandi ( talk) 20:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 15:05, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I have made edits to the article, it now has sources and a list of her awards, as well as an EL. Because of her multiple award wins and nominations, and per the earlier comments, I agree that she meets WP:PRODUCER. I have found other sources that show her significance, for instance Charlie Rose has interviewed her (by herself, not with Scorcese) twice. There are other video links that would be useful but would take some time to go through. So I vote keep. -- Krelnik ( talk) 00:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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