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The result was keep. postdlf ( talk) 04:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Barbara Árnason
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This is an english wikipedia abd this article appears to be writen in Germen. The Cosmos Master ( talk) 15:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks Icelandic or Norwegian to me, but I agree it should be deleted. I will note there is some irony in complaining about non-English articles, when you include a vast deal of typos in your own short sentence.
IrishStephen (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's nothing ironic about it. Some people make typos, for all sorts of reasons, and can still believe the English wiki should have only English-language articles. Typos or no, The Cosmos Master was writing in English. freshacconci talk to me 03:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks Icelandic or Norwegian to me, but I agree it should be deleted. I will note there is some irony in complaining about non-English articles, when you include a vast deal of typos in your own short sentence.
IrishStephen (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. It's Icelandic, and (according to Google Translate) says "Barbara Moray Williams Arnason (1911-1975) was an English painter". Despite the near-speediable condition of the current half-sentence article, the web has some information about her in both English and Icelandic. According to the Iceland Review, she married the Icelandic artist Magnús Á. Árnason in 1937 and moved to Iceland, and was significant enough an artist that in 2011 she was the subject of a centennial exhibition at the Gerðarsafn museum in Kópavogur in 2011. [1] Here is the museum's press release to the same effect. [2] (The museum doesn't seem to have an article on English Wikipedia but our article about the city mentions the museum and its collection of Barbara Arnason art.) Here is a 1994 article about her (written by her brother Alan Moray, I think) in the Icelandic paper Morgunblaðið [3] (Google translation here.) Her twin sister was the notable illustrator Ursula Moray Williams , and Ursula's obituaries mention Barbara as "a distinguished wood engraver and sculptor". [4] [5] So: if others agree that she is potentially notable, I think a workable stub about her could be created from the existing web sources. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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- Comment. I have now translated the article and added her sister. For future reference, articles written in foreign languages should be reported at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English; it happens surprisingly often and I and others can then translate them or report if they are duplicates of existing topics or clearly non-notable. I haven't had time to hunt for sources yet; thanks to Arxiloxos for beginning the task. Yngvadottir ( talk) 04:14, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. She evidently made an impact in Iceland; her work is in the permanent collection of a gallery, they held a retrospective to celebrate her centennial, she was included in a curators' choice show at the Reykjavík Art Museum, she rates 5 pages in a survey of 19th- and 20th-century Icelandic art, some of her work is frequently mentioned (her illustration of a work by Hallgrímur Pétursson, her mural in a Reykjavík school), and as mentioned above the obituaries for her sister also mention her as a noted artist. Two of us have been able to find several sources despite archiving problems with Icelandic material, and the fact the sources are almost all Icelandic is immaterial (although she is redlinked in the is.wikipedia article on the school, which I hope will be remedied soon). Yngvadottir ( talk) 19:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep -- Notability is not limited by country. Either she is notable or she is not; being notable only in Iceland is an oxymoron. The orignal objection seems to be that the article was in Icelandic. That is no longer the case. I note that the article was only created a couple of days ago. I suspect that the AFD nom did not give the creator a chance to finish writing it. Peterkingiron ( talk) 09:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep clearly now meets WP:ARTIST, due to expansion by Yngvadottir. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 16:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Yngvadottir's efforts are commendable. It looks okay for the WP:ARTIST criteria. IrishStephen ( talk) 00:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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The result was keep. postdlf ( talk) 04:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Barbara Árnason
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This is an english wikipedia abd this article appears to be writen in Germen. The Cosmos Master ( talk) 15:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks Icelandic or Norwegian to me, but I agree it should be deleted. I will note there is some irony in complaining about non-English articles, when you include a vast deal of typos in your own short sentence.
IrishStephen (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's nothing ironic about it. Some people make typos, for all sorts of reasons, and can still believe the English wiki should have only English-language articles. Typos or no, The Cosmos Master was writing in English. freshacconci talk to me 03:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- It looks Icelandic or Norwegian to me, but I agree it should be deleted. I will note there is some irony in complaining about non-English articles, when you include a vast deal of typos in your own short sentence.
IrishStephen (
talk) 15:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. It's Icelandic, and (according to Google Translate) says "Barbara Moray Williams Arnason (1911-1975) was an English painter". Despite the near-speediable condition of the current half-sentence article, the web has some information about her in both English and Icelandic. According to the Iceland Review, she married the Icelandic artist Magnús Á. Árnason in 1937 and moved to Iceland, and was significant enough an artist that in 2011 she was the subject of a centennial exhibition at the Gerðarsafn museum in Kópavogur in 2011. [1] Here is the museum's press release to the same effect. [2] (The museum doesn't seem to have an article on English Wikipedia but our article about the city mentions the museum and its collection of Barbara Arnason art.) Here is a 1994 article about her (written by her brother Alan Moray, I think) in the Icelandic paper Morgunblaðið [3] (Google translation here.) Her twin sister was the notable illustrator Ursula Moray Williams , and Ursula's obituaries mention Barbara as "a distinguished wood engraver and sculptor". [4] [5] So: if others agree that she is potentially notable, I think a workable stub about her could be created from the existing web sources. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 18:30, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
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- Comment. I have now translated the article and added her sister. For future reference, articles written in foreign languages should be reported at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English; it happens surprisingly often and I and others can then translate them or report if they are duplicates of existing topics or clearly non-notable. I haven't had time to hunt for sources yet; thanks to Arxiloxos for beginning the task. Yngvadottir ( talk) 04:14, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. She evidently made an impact in Iceland; her work is in the permanent collection of a gallery, they held a retrospective to celebrate her centennial, she was included in a curators' choice show at the Reykjavík Art Museum, she rates 5 pages in a survey of 19th- and 20th-century Icelandic art, some of her work is frequently mentioned (her illustration of a work by Hallgrímur Pétursson, her mural in a Reykjavík school), and as mentioned above the obituaries for her sister also mention her as a noted artist. Two of us have been able to find several sources despite archiving problems with Icelandic material, and the fact the sources are almost all Icelandic is immaterial (although she is redlinked in the is.wikipedia article on the school, which I hope will be remedied soon). Yngvadottir ( talk) 19:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep -- Notability is not limited by country. Either she is notable or she is not; being notable only in Iceland is an oxymoron. The orignal objection seems to be that the article was in Icelandic. That is no longer the case. I note that the article was only created a couple of days ago. I suspect that the AFD nom did not give the creator a chance to finish writing it. Peterkingiron ( talk) 09:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep clearly now meets WP:ARTIST, due to expansion by Yngvadottir. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 16:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Yngvadottir's efforts are commendable. It looks okay for the WP:ARTIST criteria. IrishStephen ( talk) 00:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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