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The result was speedy delete. CSD G12. Large chunks copied vebatim from The Ancient City of Azia: A Typical Ibo Community of Old Spinning Spark 09:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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@ Some Gadget Geek: incompetent deprod by Andrew Davidson. Original prod reason still stands, Completely unsourced and topic of minimal notability. Suggest a merge. » Shadowowl | talk 09:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per WP:SK, "so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the article in question". The claim that this is completely unsourced is blatantly false as the reference section lists two books about the subject. Andrew D. ( talk) 10:03, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep WP:GEOLAND.
Going to generously suggest Andrew D isn't familiar with wiki policies, just flat out deleting the deletion template isn't advisable...however,this place clearly exists as a distinct town and comfortably passes GEOLAND IMO. "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low." 92.3.155.60 ( talk) 14:07, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Removing that deletion template was correct per WP:DEPROD which explains that "To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the ... tag from the article". That's not the same as AfD because it's a different process. Andrew D. ( talk) 14:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- You are correct, my apologies, my mistake. 92.3.155.60 ( talk) 23:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete I am neutral on whether this topic is notable enough for an article (a quick Googling brought up the same book-length source from which this article's information was apparently "culled", but its reliability/usability is another matter), but I highly suspect, based partly on the use of the word "culled" and partly on the disastrously poor grammar of some segments and the relative presentability of others, that this article may have been one big WP:COPYVIO since its first edit, and therefore may meet WP:G12. Alternatively, the use of quotes around "culled" may imply that the article text was actually ripped from another source that used that wording, and our article's creator didn't know what to make of it and took the citation word-for-word, which would still make the whole text a copyvio. I do not have access to the two sources from which this text was apparently "culled", but if anyone does their assistance would be appreciated. I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to copyright violations, which is why I say weak delete in this case. Anyway, there's not much that can be preserved in the page (if no one has access to source from which it was "culled" then we can't actually verify it, and the original draft up to my edit yesterday was blatantly promotional), and the title, which is a common-enough misspelling of Asia (and the correct spelling of Asia in various languages) should almost certainly redirect to an unrelated article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:27, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 08:12, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment, a search of gmaps brings up this, and a gnews search brings up lots of articles so this community/town exists, as for problems with copyvio, the article can be reduced to a couple of sentences, issues with the book The Ancient City of Azia (which, incidently, is held by around 20 libraries) could be listed in an external links/further reading section. Coolabahapple ( talk) 09:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. CSD G12. Large chunks copied vebatim from The Ancient City of Azia: A Typical Ibo Community of Old Spinning Spark 09:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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@ Some Gadget Geek: incompetent deprod by Andrew Davidson. Original prod reason still stands, Completely unsourced and topic of minimal notability. Suggest a merge. » Shadowowl | talk 09:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per WP:SK, "so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the article in question". The claim that this is completely unsourced is blatantly false as the reference section lists two books about the subject. Andrew D. ( talk) 10:03, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep WP:GEOLAND.
Going to generously suggest Andrew D isn't familiar with wiki policies, just flat out deleting the deletion template isn't advisable...however,this place clearly exists as a distinct town and comfortably passes GEOLAND IMO. "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low." 92.3.155.60 ( talk) 14:07, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Removing that deletion template was correct per WP:DEPROD which explains that "To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the ... tag from the article". That's not the same as AfD because it's a different process. Andrew D. ( talk) 14:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- You are correct, my apologies, my mistake. 92.3.155.60 ( talk) 23:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete I am neutral on whether this topic is notable enough for an article (a quick Googling brought up the same book-length source from which this article's information was apparently "culled", but its reliability/usability is another matter), but I highly suspect, based partly on the use of the word "culled" and partly on the disastrously poor grammar of some segments and the relative presentability of others, that this article may have been one big WP:COPYVIO since its first edit, and therefore may meet WP:G12. Alternatively, the use of quotes around "culled" may imply that the article text was actually ripped from another source that used that wording, and our article's creator didn't know what to make of it and took the citation word-for-word, which would still make the whole text a copyvio. I do not have access to the two sources from which this text was apparently "culled", but if anyone does their assistance would be appreciated. I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to copyright violations, which is why I say weak delete in this case. Anyway, there's not much that can be preserved in the page (if no one has access to source from which it was "culled" then we can't actually verify it, and the original draft up to my edit yesterday was blatantly promotional), and the title, which is a common-enough misspelling of Asia (and the correct spelling of Asia in various languages) should almost certainly redirect to an unrelated article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:27, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 08:12, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment, a search of gmaps brings up this, and a gnews search brings up lots of articles so this community/town exists, as for problems with copyvio, the article can be reduced to a couple of sentences, issues with the book The Ancient City of Azia (which, incidently, is held by around 20 libraries) could be listed in an external links/further reading section. Coolabahapple ( talk) 09:16, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.