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The result was delete. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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Article about a band with no
reliably sourced claim to passing
WP:NMUSIC. In fact, the band's own self-published Facebook profile is the closest there is to a reference anywhere at all here -- and while there have been other references in the article in the past, none of them were good ones: even at its best, it was referenced entirely to WordPress or Blogspot blogs and PR platforms, and has never in its entire history shown even one genuinely reliable or notability-supporting source at all.
There's also a
conflict of interest issue here, as the article was created by somebody whose user name was strongly suggestive of a PR agent ("Oneuppr") and has since been frequently edited by the subject himself -- although that hasn't rendered the article's writing tone advertorialized enough to speedy, it does still suggest that the core goal here was to use Wikipedia as a publicity machine instead of an encyclopedia.
As always, the notability test for musicians or bands is not just that their own self-published social networking presence verifies that they exist: it is that reliable sources, independent of the subject's own marketing, cover them in the context of something that satisfies an NMUSIC criterion. But nothing like that is being shown here at all, and there's no prior version I can restore that did a better job of showing anything like that either.
Bearcat (
talk)
17:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Not a notable Irish band. Not even borderline. The best reference is from the Athlone Advertiser [1]. Britishfinance ( talk) 17:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Doesn't meet WP:NBAND or WP:SIGCOV. In terms of the notability criteria for bands, the subject does not seem to have charted in Ireland under stage name or real name, has not received or been nominated for any awards that I can find (IMRO, Meteor, Choice, MTV UK&I, etc), has not been subject of any significant radio play or rotation, and has not released any major or well-covered works or albums. While there is evidence of some reviews in main stream press and music press, these largely represent the type of run-of-the-mill coverage expected for a debut album or release. And hence would not seem to meet the threshold of SIGCOV. The promotional and COI overtones are also a concern. In short: delete. Guliolopez ( talk) 13:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Does not meet WP:BAND as per nom. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 14:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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Article about a band with no
reliably sourced claim to passing
WP:NMUSIC. In fact, the band's own self-published Facebook profile is the closest there is to a reference anywhere at all here -- and while there have been other references in the article in the past, none of them were good ones: even at its best, it was referenced entirely to WordPress or Blogspot blogs and PR platforms, and has never in its entire history shown even one genuinely reliable or notability-supporting source at all.
There's also a
conflict of interest issue here, as the article was created by somebody whose user name was strongly suggestive of a PR agent ("Oneuppr") and has since been frequently edited by the subject himself -- although that hasn't rendered the article's writing tone advertorialized enough to speedy, it does still suggest that the core goal here was to use Wikipedia as a publicity machine instead of an encyclopedia.
As always, the notability test for musicians or bands is not just that their own self-published social networking presence verifies that they exist: it is that reliable sources, independent of the subject's own marketing, cover them in the context of something that satisfies an NMUSIC criterion. But nothing like that is being shown here at all, and there's no prior version I can restore that did a better job of showing anything like that either.
Bearcat (
talk)
17:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Not a notable Irish band. Not even borderline. The best reference is from the Athlone Advertiser [1]. Britishfinance ( talk) 17:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Doesn't meet WP:NBAND or WP:SIGCOV. In terms of the notability criteria for bands, the subject does not seem to have charted in Ireland under stage name or real name, has not received or been nominated for any awards that I can find (IMRO, Meteor, Choice, MTV UK&I, etc), has not been subject of any significant radio play or rotation, and has not released any major or well-covered works or albums. While there is evidence of some reviews in main stream press and music press, these largely represent the type of run-of-the-mill coverage expected for a debut album or release. And hence would not seem to meet the threshold of SIGCOV. The promotional and COI overtones are also a concern. In short: delete. Guliolopez ( talk) 13:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Does not meet WP:BAND as per nom. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 14:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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