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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Atha Mechina Alludu
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Fails WP:GNG: No sources for either English transliterated title, or original Telugu title. All other linked websites are database entries. This may be from a significant actor or a prolific director, but it can't stand on its own as it is. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Additional comment: Some points at WP:NFILM might help this stand if any contemporary criticism of the film was found, but as said, I came across practically nothing for this film. Regardless, this article fails on all other of NFILM's points (including GNG/RS) based on my searching. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Online English-language sources for old non-Hindi films of India are pretty much non-existent. Both Krishna and Kodi Ramakrishna are well known figures in Telugu cinema, so its likely that film is widely distributed. The film received full length review from well known Telugu-language newspaper Andhra Patrika, [1] quite possible that it is reviewed in other Telugu newspapers, not available online at this point. Hence the film satisfies #1 of other evidence of notability. -- Ab207 ( talk) 16:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "సినిమా ముచ్చట్లు: అత్త మెచ్చిన అల్లుడు" [Cinema talks: Aththa Mechhina Alludu]. Andhra Patrika (in Telugu). 2020-01-23.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The fact that there are notable actors does not establish notability for this film as notability isn't inherited. With that said, other than the one review mentioned I could find nothing of substance. Lots of links to databases, youtube videos, and other sites that fail all of the reliability requirements. Saying that it satisfies
#1 of other evidence of notability is wrong, because that clearly states "received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics." and we can only find one. You cannot assume that there is more.
Donaldd23 (
talk)
21:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- While I agree that at least two known reviews are needed, it cannot be assumed that they do not exist because they are not available online. Its unfortunate that most Indian Newspapers do not store content before 2000s. Even if they were, Google search does a terrible job when it comes to Indian languages. I've tried to preset whatever I could find by searching manually. -- Ab207 ( talk) 08:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Indeed, we cannot assume that sources don't exist because they're not online. But it remains the case that in order to keep the article, those sources need to be produced, and they need to be verifiable by other editors. No prejudice against recreation if sources appear at a later date, but right now, this doesn't meet the GNG. Ravenswing 07:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Atha Mechina Alludu
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Fails WP:GNG: No sources for either English transliterated title, or original Telugu title. All other linked websites are database entries. This may be from a significant actor or a prolific director, but it can't stand on its own as it is. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Additional comment: Some points at WP:NFILM might help this stand if any contemporary criticism of the film was found, but as said, I came across practically nothing for this film. Regardless, this article fails on all other of NFILM's points (including GNG/RS) based on my searching. – eggofreason( talk · contribs) 05:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Online English-language sources for old non-Hindi films of India are pretty much non-existent. Both Krishna and Kodi Ramakrishna are well known figures in Telugu cinema, so its likely that film is widely distributed. The film received full length review from well known Telugu-language newspaper Andhra Patrika, [1] quite possible that it is reviewed in other Telugu newspapers, not available online at this point. Hence the film satisfies #1 of other evidence of notability. -- Ab207 ( talk) 16:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "సినిమా ముచ్చట్లు: అత్త మెచ్చిన అల్లుడు" [Cinema talks: Aththa Mechhina Alludu]. Andhra Patrika (in Telugu). 2020-01-23.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 18:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The fact that there are notable actors does not establish notability for this film as notability isn't inherited. With that said, other than the one review mentioned I could find nothing of substance. Lots of links to databases, youtube videos, and other sites that fail all of the reliability requirements. Saying that it satisfies
#1 of other evidence of notability is wrong, because that clearly states "received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics." and we can only find one. You cannot assume that there is more.
Donaldd23 (
talk)
21:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- While I agree that at least two known reviews are needed, it cannot be assumed that they do not exist because they are not available online. Its unfortunate that most Indian Newspapers do not store content before 2000s. Even if they were, Google search does a terrible job when it comes to Indian languages. I've tried to preset whatever I could find by searching manually. -- Ab207 ( talk) 08:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Indeed, we cannot assume that sources don't exist because they're not online. But it remains the case that in order to keep the article, those sources need to be produced, and they need to be verifiable by other editors. No prejudice against recreation if sources appear at a later date, but right now, this doesn't meet the GNG. Ravenswing 07:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.