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Keep I’d argue that as a Companion of the Prophet he’s inherently notable, and from memory we’ve kept articles about Companions previously at AfD. Companions are the most important source of
hadith in Islam, and this one has eight sources.
Mccapra (
talk)
06:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep If this individual is mentioned in the Haditha then he should be treated as any other religious figure. It appears that the individual is documented in Muslim religious sources. Are we going to start removing the names of minor Catholic saints next?
Hyperion35 (
talk)
17:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - I'm not sure that simply being a
companion of the prophet is automatic grounds for notability, neither is being mentioned in the
Hadith. There are plenty of characters mentioned in the canonical books of the Bible which are not considered notable enough to have their own article. Similarly, there are folks who met Jesus (which is the qualification for being considered a companion of the prophet), who do not have their own article (e.g. Bartimaeus, Jairus, although both of those figures are covered in articles about the major events they play in the NT).
Onel5969TT me21:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment I’m not suggesting that being mentioned in Hadith is the basis of notability, but that being the source of the Hadith is. This guarantees ‘sustained coverage’ in works discussing the importance of the Hadith one has transmitted. I agree not automatic notability, but I’d be generally wary of deleting a companion.
Mccapra (
talk)
18:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep The Companions of Prophet are considered notable, and since Mccapra has pointed out, "there'd be plethora of coverage" in the Hadīth literature. I tried searching online but Google gave me just multitudes of snippets from various books that I am not able to access. There is much more classical coverage offline. ─
The Aafī(talk)00:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Keep I’d argue that as a Companion of the Prophet he’s inherently notable, and from memory we’ve kept articles about Companions previously at AfD. Companions are the most important source of
hadith in Islam, and this one has eight sources.
Mccapra (
talk)
06:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep If this individual is mentioned in the Haditha then he should be treated as any other religious figure. It appears that the individual is documented in Muslim religious sources. Are we going to start removing the names of minor Catholic saints next?
Hyperion35 (
talk)
17:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - I'm not sure that simply being a
companion of the prophet is automatic grounds for notability, neither is being mentioned in the
Hadith. There are plenty of characters mentioned in the canonical books of the Bible which are not considered notable enough to have their own article. Similarly, there are folks who met Jesus (which is the qualification for being considered a companion of the prophet), who do not have their own article (e.g. Bartimaeus, Jairus, although both of those figures are covered in articles about the major events they play in the NT).
Onel5969TT me21:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment I’m not suggesting that being mentioned in Hadith is the basis of notability, but that being the source of the Hadith is. This guarantees ‘sustained coverage’ in works discussing the importance of the Hadith one has transmitted. I agree not automatic notability, but I’d be generally wary of deleting a companion.
Mccapra (
talk)
18:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep The Companions of Prophet are considered notable, and since Mccapra has pointed out, "there'd be plethora of coverage" in the Hadīth literature. I tried searching online but Google gave me just multitudes of snippets from various books that I am not able to access. There is much more classical coverage offline. ─
The Aafī(talk)00:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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