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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Anna van Aerssen van Sommelsdijk
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Absolutely no presentation of any case for notability. WP:NOTGENEALOGY totally applies here - she was born in 1640, she was in a family, she was one of a number of sisters who joined a movement, she died. No notability in text or sources. Fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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Keep There's a six-paragraph scholarly biography in Dutch here which includes a reference list pointing to other sources. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 11:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:BASIC as demonstrated by Ficaia and the Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland. pburka ( talk) 12:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Pburka. St Anselm ( talk) 14:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The six-paragraph biography adds absolutely nothing to the article in its current state and confers no notability whatsoever - she was not a proponent of any act or consequence. The
Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland does not even mention her. FWIW. Best
Alexandermcnabb (
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16:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland is the name of the biographical dictionary in which the six-paragraph biography appears. Wikipedia's notability criteria don't require great feats or acts of consequence. Instead, we delegate the determination of notability to reliable sources. If a prominent tertiary source such as DVN has taken note of van Aerssen, then so also should we. pburka ( talk) 16:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO as above. Yet another unnecessary nomination. One is supposed to check sources before nominating! gidonb ( talk) 00:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO. Nominators should be especially careful in nominating for deletion articles about women, when their contributions are regularly underrepresented in historical sources, a fact which the Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland already sought to remedy, so let's not disregard that important work. Jahaza ( talk) 05:08, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep -- The sources clearly include Dutch biographical disctionaries. It is long established that people with articles in such works are notable. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:50, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This is article could easily be expanded to 60k or 80k with not a lot of work. More than than a few sources to support it. scope_creep Talk 11:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Anna van Aerssen van Sommelsdijk
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Absolutely no presentation of any case for notability. WP:NOTGENEALOGY totally applies here - she was born in 1640, she was in a family, she was one of a number of sisters who joined a movement, she died. No notability in text or sources. Fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Christianity and Netherlands. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Keep There's a six-paragraph scholarly biography in Dutch here which includes a reference list pointing to other sources. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 11:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:BASIC as demonstrated by Ficaia and the Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland. pburka ( talk) 12:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Pburka. St Anselm ( talk) 14:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The six-paragraph biography adds absolutely nothing to the article in its current state and confers no notability whatsoever - she was not a proponent of any act or consequence. The
Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland does not even mention her. FWIW. Best
Alexandermcnabb (
talk)
16:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland is the name of the biographical dictionary in which the six-paragraph biography appears. Wikipedia's notability criteria don't require great feats or acts of consequence. Instead, we delegate the determination of notability to reliable sources. If a prominent tertiary source such as DVN has taken note of van Aerssen, then so also should we. pburka ( talk) 16:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO as above. Yet another unnecessary nomination. One is supposed to check sources before nominating! gidonb ( talk) 00:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO. Nominators should be especially careful in nominating for deletion articles about women, when their contributions are regularly underrepresented in historical sources, a fact which the Digitaal Vrouwenlexicon van Nederland already sought to remedy, so let's not disregard that important work. Jahaza ( talk) 05:08, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep -- The sources clearly include Dutch biographical disctionaries. It is long established that people with articles in such works are notable. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:50, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This is article could easily be expanded to 60k or 80k with not a lot of work. More than than a few sources to support it. scope_creep Talk 11:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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