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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply

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Per WP:BARE, most of the sources are from her own website, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reliable sources about her. She's mainly noted for dating Benedict Cumberbatch.

I'm re-nominating this because the first time it was nominated, one of the sock puppets heavily editing this page used another user name to nominate the page for keep. LADY LOTUS TALK 12:40, 25 March 2014 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment Another user has provided a list [1] of scanned images from printed publications. At least some of them appear to be from reliable sources and feature non-trivial coverage. Unfortunately they are hard to read, and some of them are foreign-language publications. It's unclear to me how many of them would count as WP:RS and therefore satisfy WP:BIO. -- Drm310 ( talk) 15:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC) reply

COMMENT per notability guidelines /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals

  • The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
Pass- Among other profiles found here ( http://www.loveannajames.com/press.html), the Architectural Digest (this is like the bible of the design world) did a feature on her ( http://www.loveannajames.com/pictures/slide366.jpg). She was also interviewed by The Telegraph. These are not minor mentions but significant coverage. I am working with my university design department (they have an archive of design magazines)to get bigger scans. The other print publications like Casa Lux, Homes and Interiors, House and Garden, etc. have websites. Casa Vogue and other fashion magazines with interior design special editions have too. These are specialized print publications and are known in design circles. If Wiki allows gossip mags (US Weekly) and tabloids (Daily Mail) for sources I don't see any reasons why these are not "proper" evidence for her significance.
  • The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
Pass- She transforms antique furniture to contemporary art. Not just antique furniture by the looks of it because she also did a make-over with the cello by Natalie Clein. There is also the graffiti art she made which arguably is her most featured work, the Verona cabinet. Her trademark technique is making traditional/antique furniture into modern pieces.
  • The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
Pass- Natalie Clein, well known cellist, commissioned James to do a makeover of her cello. She had a concert wherein she played the cello at the Wallace Collection, which, from its own Wiki page is a museum focusing on decorative arts which James specializes in. So it's definitely not just a showcase for the cellist but a showcase for the artist too. The Verona wardrobe has been featured in a lot of design magazines. See press clippings.
  • The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
Pass Same as above. She has also been featured in "Tanya Baxter Gallery, London Design Festival, Orleans House, Clerkenwell Design Week, Homes & Interiors Scotland Exhibition, Culture Label, Urban Spaces and Tent London". Press clippings here too http://www.loveannajames.com/press.html (I will try to get bigger scans from my university archive for these print publications). These are exhibitions because she's not a painter or a sculptor. For a decorative artist, that's the equivalent of being featured in a museum. Unsung Artists ( talk) 13:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment Notability is also have "significant coverage" of the topic. Which she has none. Most of the sources on her article page are from her own website. I'm also concerned that Unsung Artists is just another sockpuppet of Fairyspit. LADY LOTUS TALK 13:16, 9 April 2014 (UTC) reply

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 06:17, 13 April 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. It is certainly the case that Ms James does the job the article says she does, and it seems to be true that she once dated an actor. However, simply doing your job does not make you notable. The various press clippings and articles about her are not critical assessments of her work, and do not describe her as making a notable contribution to her discipline: they are simply the bread-and-butter of her industry. This article seems to have been around for a while now, but it still doesn't say clearly why she's any more significant or worthy of our attention than any other decorative artist. Just being a decorative artist isn't enough: she has to be notable at her job. As for her once dating a famous actor, I merely observe that notability is not acquired by contagion. RomanSpa ( talk) 13:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Anna James (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Per WP:BARE, most of the sources are from her own website, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reliable sources about her. She's mainly noted for dating Benedict Cumberbatch.

I'm re-nominating this because the first time it was nominated, one of the sock puppets heavily editing this page used another user name to nominate the page for keep. LADY LOTUS TALK 12:40, 25 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 01:59, 5 April 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Comment Another user has provided a list [1] of scanned images from printed publications. At least some of them appear to be from reliable sources and feature non-trivial coverage. Unfortunately they are hard to read, and some of them are foreign-language publications. It's unclear to me how many of them would count as WP:RS and therefore satisfy WP:BIO. -- Drm310 ( talk) 15:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC) reply

COMMENT per notability guidelines /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals

  • The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
Pass- Among other profiles found here ( http://www.loveannajames.com/press.html), the Architectural Digest (this is like the bible of the design world) did a feature on her ( http://www.loveannajames.com/pictures/slide366.jpg). She was also interviewed by The Telegraph. These are not minor mentions but significant coverage. I am working with my university design department (they have an archive of design magazines)to get bigger scans. The other print publications like Casa Lux, Homes and Interiors, House and Garden, etc. have websites. Casa Vogue and other fashion magazines with interior design special editions have too. These are specialized print publications and are known in design circles. If Wiki allows gossip mags (US Weekly) and tabloids (Daily Mail) for sources I don't see any reasons why these are not "proper" evidence for her significance.
  • The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
Pass- She transforms antique furniture to contemporary art. Not just antique furniture by the looks of it because she also did a make-over with the cello by Natalie Clein. There is also the graffiti art she made which arguably is her most featured work, the Verona cabinet. Her trademark technique is making traditional/antique furniture into modern pieces.
  • The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
Pass- Natalie Clein, well known cellist, commissioned James to do a makeover of her cello. She had a concert wherein she played the cello at the Wallace Collection, which, from its own Wiki page is a museum focusing on decorative arts which James specializes in. So it's definitely not just a showcase for the cellist but a showcase for the artist too. The Verona wardrobe has been featured in a lot of design magazines. See press clippings.
  • The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
Pass Same as above. She has also been featured in "Tanya Baxter Gallery, London Design Festival, Orleans House, Clerkenwell Design Week, Homes & Interiors Scotland Exhibition, Culture Label, Urban Spaces and Tent London". Press clippings here too http://www.loveannajames.com/press.html (I will try to get bigger scans from my university archive for these print publications). These are exhibitions because she's not a painter or a sculptor. For a decorative artist, that's the equivalent of being featured in a museum. Unsung Artists ( talk) 13:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment Notability is also have "significant coverage" of the topic. Which she has none. Most of the sources on her article page are from her own website. I'm also concerned that Unsung Artists is just another sockpuppet of Fairyspit. LADY LOTUS TALK 13:16, 9 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 06:17, 13 April 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. It is certainly the case that Ms James does the job the article says she does, and it seems to be true that she once dated an actor. However, simply doing your job does not make you notable. The various press clippings and articles about her are not critical assessments of her work, and do not describe her as making a notable contribution to her discipline: they are simply the bread-and-butter of her industry. This article seems to have been around for a while now, but it still doesn't say clearly why she's any more significant or worthy of our attention than any other decorative artist. Just being a decorative artist isn't enough: she has to be notable at her job. As for her once dating a famous actor, I merely observe that notability is not acquired by contagion. RomanSpa ( talk) 13:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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