The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Despite the flurry of new editors at this AFD and the improper borderline personal attacks, I see a consensus here to Keep this article which has been subject to extensive editing since this AFD was nominated. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:05, 12 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Anita Bobasso

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No significant coverage of subject, even in reliable sources native to subject. No major achievements during career have been presented. Fails WP:NACTOR. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, Women, and Argentina. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Copying over comments from @ Ragazzodeitalia: at the talk page:

It is a biography of a singer of typical Argentine "tango" songs, very famous in the last century and that can be verified in the dozens of links in her bio, despite the fact that at that time there was no press like there is now... without Yet she had it. after 25 years she died press is still talking about her as this article of 2020 https://www.historiadealagoas.com.br/antonio-hugo-da-silva-o-boemio-maestro-antonio-paurilio.html Please help me so that it is not deleted, I am an old man and I don't know how to do it. very thankful Ragazzodeitalia ( talk) 12:48, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 13:17, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

ANITA BOBASSO biography SHOULD NOT BE DELETED. there is dozens of external links to archives of newspapers and magazines talking about her in a epoque that press was not plenty. it will be unfair to do it with a famous dead person loved by her public. please help to do not delete it and protect it. thank you very much. Alfredomaraw ( talk) 14:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Anita Bobasso for what I am reading I believe the editor requesting deletion has a personal problem with the subject because there is not reason. This should NOT BE DELETED. I also noticed the subject is from 19 century an merits respect. In her bio there are dozens of verifications to external links archives. All of them mentioning Anita as the "Argentinian star" and everybody agrees that she was a very famous TANGO singer. It will be insulting to remove her. Also, the editor is including the deletion request in everywhere he can obviously showing that there is a problem? Editors should help to this biography do not be deleted. thank you ! Gustavo Ravanes ( talk) 14:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• Comment I'm sympathetic, but the refs aren't great, and she doesn't as yet have a bio on either Spanish or Portuguese wp. Johnbod ( talk) 15:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  thank you Johnbod for being sympathetic with this. Some people does not understand that in the 19 century (even in the early 20 century) there was not press, magazine and newspapers like we have now!! Anita Bobasso was one of the most famous singers of tango as you can see in the dozens of links listed in her biography! they are from archives of course. and yes, there is a biography in spanish ( and in many others she is mentioned ). She was remembered just 3 years ago as the (Anita Bobasso the star of tango that the public asked her to sing over and over again the same song because they loved so much) as you can see in this modern publication of 2020 https://www.historiadealagoas.com.br/antonio-hugo-da-silva-o-boemio-maestro-antonio-paurilio.html

  Regarding a biography, YES, here is one in Spanish: https://ragazzoitaliano25.wixsite.com/anitabobasso

  and she is always mentioned in most press of his famous actor grandson all the time. I would like to protect the bio from malicious people but I am 75 years old and its not easy for me to do it because I do not know much about wikipedia and how to defend myself from people.

  Please help me to respect her memory. Thank you very much in advance. Alfredomaraw ( talk) 18:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  Can you believe that the young person that misrespected anita bobasso asking for deletion of her bio is now having a situation? I cannot believe he posted :"This user is currently feeling discouraged about Wikipedia and is taking an off-and-on wikibreak due to loss of motivation."????

  how he will ask to a person from 19 century to have results on google search, books and else?? those did not exist back then!!! enough that this person was working until she was 100 years old!! and still showing in movies links and comments. If we take a look in newspapers archives there are TONES of articles about her!! that should be enough to let her rest in peace...her soul and her public that love and followed her... see in brazil newspapers archives how many articles to read about her: [1] http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/docmulti.aspxbib=%5Bcache%5Ddrummond_4518201294476.DocLstX&pasta=ano%20193&pesq=anita%20bobasso

  i DO NOT KNOW HOW TO REMOVE THAT DELETION REQUEST , BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE BY SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW AND HAVE COMMON SENSE. THANK YOU!! GOD BLESS Antoniobara ( talk) 21:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I'm also sympathetic to this article, but inclined to agree there aren't substantial secondary sources. It looks like Bobasso is mentioned in Annuario teatral argentino: enciclopedia de la escena argentina ([ [2]]) in 1926, which may support a notability claim, but I am unable to access the full text to verify. ForsythiaJo ( talk) 18:05, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

YES! I did not even knew about all those links talking about Anita Bobasso !! Yes, she was also named ( alias) as "Anita del Plata" as you can see in those links because the "Rio de la Plata" (river) in Buenos Aires. That shows how famous she was by the press calling her that way! Anita Bobasso - Anita del Plata,meaning like a queen from Buenos Aires because the TANGO which is the trademark of Argentina and she was one of the most famous ones singing Tangos, that is why her success outside Argentina in Brazil and Europe. Please see all the dozens of links in her biography...there are links to the archives of dozens of newspapers commenting about her. Thank you Forsythia.JO!

this is the link that you just pointed: https://www.google.com/search?q=ANITA+BOBASSO&tbm=bks&hl=en&gl=us&ei=K2_3ZObpHtak5NoP5c24iA4&ved=0ahUKEwimq8bgiJSBAxVWElkFHeUmDuEQsJ4FCAM Alfredomaraw ( talk) 18:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

yes, in addition to the big amount of external links to newspapers archives in her bio, she is mentioned in google books, as Anita Bobasso and the name that her public and the press in that time called her "Anita del Plata" named after the river facing Buenos Aires city. https://books.google.com/books?id=8rIuAQAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=anita+bobasso

PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THIS BIO. its from 19 century!!! Anita Bobasso please help to keep it and protect it. CAN AN EDITOR PLEASE REMOVE THE DELETION REQUEST? I do not know how to do it. thank you! Gustavo Ravanes ( talk) 19:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES ABOUT ANITA BOBASSOare available in Brazil newspapers archives !!! of course, she is from 19 century...google did not exist back then!! PLEASE SEE [3] http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/docmulti.aspx?bib=%5Bcache%5Ddrummond_4518201294476.DocLstX&pasta=ano%20193&pesq=anita%20bobasso

REMOVE DELETION REQUEST PLEASE. UNFAIR TOTALLY UNFAIR. Antoniobara ( talk) 21:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

KEEP IT. we must remember that the subject is 125 years old, when google search, news, books, etc even internet was not available. still there is a lot to find about this famous tango singer. Anita Bobasso Bio has more than enough external links in the archives of newspapers and magazines that can be accessed on this link: [4]

Please remove the deletion request. thank you! Alfredomaraw ( talk) 00:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• KeepBecause in her time did not exist those sources! I am sure the person that requested it must be very young! Google (books · news · scholar · free images ??? still there is some mentions about her movies also in google books: https://books.google.com/books?id=8rIuAQAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=anita+bobasso

also a year 2020 article mentioning her and saying great things about her: https://www.historiadealagoas.com.br/antonio-hugo-da-silva-o-boemio-maestro-antonio-paurilio.htm

in movies: https://www.lavanguardia.com/peliculas-series/personas/anita-bobasso-3258466

other in movies: https://trakt.tv/people/anita-bobasso?sort=released,asc

other movie: https://www.rikrek.com/sk/osobnost/anita-bobasso/1289342/

http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/DocReader.aspx bib=572748&pesq=%22ANITA%20BOBASSO%22&pasta=ano%20193&hf=memoria.bn.br&pagfis=39128

AND TONES OF ARTICLES ABOUT ANITA BOBASSO IN BRAZIL NEWSPAPERS ARCHIVES: http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/docmulti.aspx?bib=%5Bcache%5Ddrummond_4518201294476.DocLstX&pasta=ano%20193&pesq=anita%20bobasso

It would be unfair to remove the bio of such a great tango singer!!

what should be removed is the request for "deletion" of this bio. GOOD HEART PEOPLE ACT AND REMOVE IT. Congratulations to whoever has a good heart and does it. This person is dead and cannot defend herself.

anita bobasso Antoniobara ( talk) 21:23, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• keep Per the Brazil newspaper archive link, and examples like this, it's reasonable to suppose that she was well known and regularly featured in the media of her time. -- Tagishsimon ( talk) 21:53, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  please help to remove the deletion request. the person who requested it now saying this:

  "This user is currently feeling discouraged about Wikipedia and is taking an off-and-on wikibreak due to loss of motivation".

  and i do not know how to remove it or how it work.

  I believe the person who did the bio will appreciate it. thank you! 2603:9001:2601:3A8A:28F8:1C31:7F96:1C86 ( talk) 22:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  Stop accusing me of WP:IDONTLIKEIT and stop WP:HOUNDing me! I am extremely upset over you and your comrades making ridiculous WP:ASPERSIONS against me in response to this AfD. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• Keep Non-English subject in the early 1900's are commonly difficult to find the right sources for, since much of their coverage isn't digitized and is only more easily discoverable by someone in the country of origin. But, with that noted, I still found significant coverage here and here. It's enough for me to say Keep, with work needing to be done on the article to properly shore up and properly represent the available references. Silver seren ^C 23:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC) reply
• Closer should be aware of the sock activity involved in this AFD deletion discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:06, 6 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  *keep Thank you Liz. This is also the link to dozens of articles about "Anita Bobasso", as per the archives of newspapers and magazines back in the 1930's, in most of them she is mentioned as the "Argentina's star". the archive has a search box to search all about her, there are dozens of them.thanks again. [5] http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/093262_02/12359 2603:9001:2601:3A8A:DC26:C67:9701:DD10 ( talk) 11:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  •keep As shown in the Brasilian "colecao digital de jornais e revistas da biblioteca nacional", website: memoria.bn.br ,there are more than enough links to articles in their archive about her. endless... [6] https://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/docmulti.aspx?bib=%5Bcache%5Dcamargo_47752009122866.DocLstX&pasta=ano%20193&pesq=anita%20bobasso Alfredomaraw ( talk) 11:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC) reply

  •KEEP Anita Bobasso was a very famous tango singer and actress, her bio should be kept in wikipedia. regarding links, there are plenty as per google books she is listed in the Who is Who in the cinema and Spanish Theater" (quien es uien en el cine y teatro español) [7] and in the "annual theater Argentino Enciclopedia of the Argentina scene" (Annuario Teatral Argentino: Enciclopedia de la escena Argentina) [8]. Ragazzodeitalia ( talk) 13:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC) reply

• Keep since she made a recognizable contribution in a specific field (tango) and her music was featured in a major 1983 Argentine film. She is still mentioned in recent news sources even though she passed away in 1996. For context, she passed 5 years before Wikipedia was even created and she was born in the 19th century (born 1896).

Hiphopsavedmylife ( talk) 19:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC) reply

*::keep it pleaseI am fascinated reading the biography of this tango singer Anita Bobasso and the articles linked to it. Obviously her fans loved her. I can understand other languages and I was reading that in one oportunity the public asked her over and over to repeat the same song. beautiful experience, beautiful times back then.≈ Camte45

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