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The result was delete. Consensus is the sources presented do not demonstrate notability.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:36, 10 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence falls short of
WP:GNG and fails
WP:JOURNALIST also.
Celestina007 (
talk) 12:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Subject is the host of a tv show on
TAG TV, and previously on a show for Rawal TV. Both are linked in his Wikipedia article. He has over 25k followers on twitter, so this isn't some unknown with no following. He is a self described journalist(His twitter, Facebook etc.) and has written multiple articles, below for example:
Keep (Revote struck) I would suggest simply removing the term "journalist" from the article. Similar articles do not use the term and fit all other conventions. And the subject has plenty of validity in other fields to be removed.
Delete. Hosting a TV show is not an automatic inclusion freebie that exempts a person from actually having to have any
reliable sources — the notability test is the reception of media coverage about him in sources he is not directly affiliated with, not simply the ability to use his own
self-published web presence as technical verification that he exists. The number of followers that a person does or doesn't have on social networking profiles also has exactly nothing to do with our inclusion standards — again, the notability test hinges on journalism being done about him by other people, not on having a Facebook page.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep (Revote struck) Yes I agree with you, I'm merely showing it to push the point that people should be careful about doing deletions for people. Here are some links about him, that's not social media.
Firstly, note that you only get one vote in an AFD discussion — you can comment as many times as you like, but once you've said "keep" or "delete" once, you do not get to preface any of the followup comments with a bolded restatement of the keep or delete you've already expressed. Followup comments must be formatted as comments, not as new votes. Secondly, the notability test is not the number of newspaper articles written by him, it is the number of newspaper articles written by other people about him. Thirdly, "news-communique.com" is not a
reliable source, so it's not evidence of his notability.
Bearcat (
talk) 18:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete my searches fail to turn up any substantive coverage.
NotButtigieg (
talk) 23:28, 6 January 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus is the sources presented do not demonstrate notability.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:36, 10 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence falls short of
WP:GNG and fails
WP:JOURNALIST also.
Celestina007 (
talk) 12:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Subject is the host of a tv show on
TAG TV, and previously on a show for Rawal TV. Both are linked in his Wikipedia article. He has over 25k followers on twitter, so this isn't some unknown with no following. He is a self described journalist(His twitter, Facebook etc.) and has written multiple articles, below for example:
Keep (Revote struck) I would suggest simply removing the term "journalist" from the article. Similar articles do not use the term and fit all other conventions. And the subject has plenty of validity in other fields to be removed.
Delete. Hosting a TV show is not an automatic inclusion freebie that exempts a person from actually having to have any
reliable sources — the notability test is the reception of media coverage about him in sources he is not directly affiliated with, not simply the ability to use his own
self-published web presence as technical verification that he exists. The number of followers that a person does or doesn't have on social networking profiles also has exactly nothing to do with our inclusion standards — again, the notability test hinges on journalism being done about him by other people, not on having a Facebook page.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep (Revote struck) Yes I agree with you, I'm merely showing it to push the point that people should be careful about doing deletions for people. Here are some links about him, that's not social media.
Firstly, note that you only get one vote in an AFD discussion — you can comment as many times as you like, but once you've said "keep" or "delete" once, you do not get to preface any of the followup comments with a bolded restatement of the keep or delete you've already expressed. Followup comments must be formatted as comments, not as new votes. Secondly, the notability test is not the number of newspaper articles written by him, it is the number of newspaper articles written by other people about him. Thirdly, "news-communique.com" is not a
reliable source, so it's not evidence of his notability.
Bearcat (
talk) 18:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete my searches fail to turn up any substantive coverage.
NotButtigieg (
talk) 23:28, 6 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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