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The result was delete. I'm persuaded by those editors arguing for Deletion. If an editor wants to work on improving this article in Draft space, contact me or ask at WP:REFUND. Liz Read! Talk! 03:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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Successful, but I couldn't establish how he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 10:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Martial arts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 12:04, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete Rank has never been considered sufficient to show WP notability. The problem is that my search didn't find significant independent coverage of him. I found lots of mentions of his rank, books and tapes he helped produce, and seminars he was giving--but no significant independent articles about him. The closest I found was the Black Belt magazine article by Coleman, but Coleman was one of his students so definitely cannot be considered independent. I'll reconsider my vote if better sources are produced. Papaursa ( talk) 19:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previous WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - there's clear evidence of significant coverage if you for his Japanese name. I haven't gone through the coverage yet but the fact that sources aren't in English is not a reason to delete the article. WP:GLOBAL. DCsansei ( talk) 13:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep: I found this [1] [2] [3] Wasilatlovekesy ( talk) 06:58, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Two of those sources are martial arts schools that teach that style--definitely not independent. Papaursa ( talk) 16:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: his ja-wiki article is also very brief, and also tagged for notability. -- asilvering ( talk) 02:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 03:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)- Delete. Coverage by martial arts schools is rarely independent and often unreliable. Searches in Japanese return a lot of wiki mirrors and more martial arts schools, plus some false hits. If that's the extent of the sourcing then he does not meet GNG.
- JoelleJay ( talk) 01:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. I'm persuaded by those editors arguing for Deletion. If an editor wants to work on improving this article in Draft space, contact me or ask at WP:REFUND. Liz Read! Talk! 03:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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- Angi Uezu ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Successful, but I couldn't establish how he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 10:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Martial arts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 12:04, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:55, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Rank has never been considered sufficient to show WP notability. The problem is that my search didn't find significant independent coverage of him. I found lots of mentions of his rank, books and tapes he helped produce, and seminars he was giving--but no significant independent articles about him. The closest I found was the Black Belt magazine article by Coleman, but Coleman was one of his students so definitely cannot be considered independent. I'll reconsider my vote if better sources are produced. Papaursa ( talk) 19:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previous WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - there's clear evidence of significant coverage if you for his Japanese name. I haven't gone through the coverage yet but the fact that sources aren't in English is not a reason to delete the article. WP:GLOBAL. DCsansei ( talk) 13:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep: I found this [1] [2] [3] Wasilatlovekesy ( talk) 06:58, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Two of those sources are martial arts schools that teach that style--definitely not independent. Papaursa ( talk) 16:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: his ja-wiki article is also very brief, and also tagged for notability. -- asilvering ( talk) 02:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 03:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)- Delete. Coverage by martial arts schools is rarely independent and often unreliable. Searches in Japanese return a lot of wiki mirrors and more martial arts schools, plus some false hits. If that's the extent of the sourcing then he does not meet GNG.
- JoelleJay ( talk) 01:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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