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The result was speedy keep. No remaining support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Angelina Lübcke
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Out of the sources being used,
this is way too brief and the rest do not confer notability at all. In my searches, the best I can find are
Sport Buzzer, which mentions her once in the image caption and once in the text and
Harz Kurier, which is inaccessible but appears to be a match report. Even if the Harz Kurier source is decent, we would still need one more decent source to consider this a
WP:GNG pass.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
10:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 22:32, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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GiantSnowman: please look at the new sources
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep following article expansion/improvement. Giant Snowman 15:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @
GiantSnowman: please look at the new sources
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Edited to add LVZ, features in Sportbuzzer about the FFV bankruptcy and collapse and her role in co-founding FC Phoenix Leipzig, stories on Phoenix's run of promotions from 2017 to 2019 and their Saxony Cup and Pokal runs against higher-division teams (and Lübcke's match-winning goals in those Saxony and promotion runs). There's much less out there about her current role on Türkiyemspor Berlin, but the FC Phoenix story is significant and her role in it significantly covered, and the LVZ story on the promotion match was print-only as far as I could find, so there may be more offline sources for someone with more access than me. At the absolute worst case, there's plenty here to create an article on FC Phoenix Leipzig due to their unusual story, include Lübcke's role in it, and then redirect to it if this AfD still passes. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 02:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. I've struck the top of my statement and will
WP:AGF with regards to LVZ, as I can't access it. If you have good skills at searching German sources, you may wish to assist with
Lisa Schwab as it's currently very poorly sourced and I can't find anything about her even though she had a decent career as far as the stats go.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:51, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I had a run of good luck with the Sportbuzzer caption tip that led me to the FC Phoenix Leipzig stories, which then unraveled the rest. I managed to cross-reference a dated copy of the print article on the sports section front that was posted as a scan elsewhere, but LVZ's online archive paywalls everything from around that time, so I can't confirm if there's an online equivalent. German paywalls are a struggle.
- Also, Sportbuzzer and LVZ both seem to share the RND network, so the Sportbuzzer content might just be aggregated or syndicated from LVZ among others. RND's EIC is Sportbuzzer's managing director. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 15:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. I've struck the top of my statement and will
WP:AGF with regards to LVZ, as I can't access it. If you have good skills at searching German sources, you may wish to assist with
Lisa Schwab as it's currently very poorly sourced and I can't find anything about her even though she had a decent career as far as the stats go.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:51, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG following improvements. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 18:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was speedy keep. No remaining support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Angelina Lübcke
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Out of the sources being used,
this is way too brief and the rest do not confer notability at all. In my searches, the best I can find are
Sport Buzzer, which mentions her once in the image caption and once in the text and
Harz Kurier, which is inaccessible but appears to be a match report. Even if the Harz Kurier source is decent, we would still need one more decent source to consider this a
WP:GNG pass.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
10:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Germany. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 22:32, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- @
GiantSnowman: please look at the new sources
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep following article expansion/improvement. Giant Snowman 15:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @
GiantSnowman: please look at the new sources
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Edited to add LVZ, features in Sportbuzzer about the FFV bankruptcy and collapse and her role in co-founding FC Phoenix Leipzig, stories on Phoenix's run of promotions from 2017 to 2019 and their Saxony Cup and Pokal runs against higher-division teams (and Lübcke's match-winning goals in those Saxony and promotion runs). There's much less out there about her current role on Türkiyemspor Berlin, but the FC Phoenix story is significant and her role in it significantly covered, and the LVZ story on the promotion match was print-only as far as I could find, so there may be more offline sources for someone with more access than me. At the absolute worst case, there's plenty here to create an article on FC Phoenix Leipzig due to their unusual story, include Lübcke's role in it, and then redirect to it if this AfD still passes. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 02:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. I've struck the top of my statement and will
WP:AGF with regards to LVZ, as I can't access it. If you have good skills at searching German sources, you may wish to assist with
Lisa Schwab as it's currently very poorly sourced and I can't find anything about her even though she had a decent career as far as the stats go.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:51, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I had a run of good luck with the Sportbuzzer caption tip that led me to the FC Phoenix Leipzig stories, which then unraveled the rest. I managed to cross-reference a dated copy of the print article on the sports section front that was posted as a scan elsewhere, but LVZ's online archive paywalls everything from around that time, so I can't confirm if there's an online equivalent. German paywalls are a struggle.
- Also, Sportbuzzer and LVZ both seem to share the RND network, so the Sportbuzzer content might just be aggregated or syndicated from LVZ among others. RND's EIC is Sportbuzzer's managing director. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 15:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. I've struck the top of my statement and will
WP:AGF with regards to LVZ, as I can't access it. If you have good skills at searching German sources, you may wish to assist with
Lisa Schwab as it's currently very poorly sourced and I can't find anything about her even though she had a decent career as far as the stats go.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
08:51, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG following improvements. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 18:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.