Andrew Kneisly
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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American rugby player to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTSPERSON. My searches yielded only trivial mentions. A possible redirect is 2017 Rugby League World Cup squads#United States. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Rugby league, and Pennsylvania. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep 25 international appearances is quite notable plus I have been able to fine a few more sources
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
Mn1548 (
talk)
11:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- The first three sources are from USARL, which is the competition the subject played in and thus not independent. The fourth source is a blog post with a passing mention of the subject, and thus is not reliable OR in-depth. JTtheOG ( talk) 16:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, I've seen similarly irrelevant sports players with articles about them.
Maurnxiao (
talk)
19:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument to keep an article.
JTtheOG (
talk)
19:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- From that website:
This may be an argument that this article is not bad enough to be speedily deleted; but that does not mean it should be kept.
- So unless I misinterpreted which is possible, is there any rush to get this article removed? Why not improve it?
Maurnxiao (
talk)
19:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. In this case, "speedily delete" refers to
speedy deletion, a separate, much quicker procedure which does not need a discussion to delete a page. This rugby article is not eligible to be deleted through that medium. However, in my opinion, the subject has not received
significant coverage from reliable sources that cover him directly and in detail and thus might fail our
general notability guidelines, which is why I brought it to a discussion.
JTtheOG (
talk)
20:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I see, thank you. Maurnxiao ( talk) 20:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. In this case, "speedily delete" refers to
speedy deletion, a separate, much quicker procedure which does not need a discussion to delete a page. This rugby article is not eligible to be deleted through that medium. However, in my opinion, the subject has not received
significant coverage from reliable sources that cover him directly and in detail and thus might fail our
general notability guidelines, which is why I brought it to a discussion.
JTtheOG (
talk)
20:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- From that website:
-
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument to keep an article.
JTtheOG (
talk)
19:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 08:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to United States men nationa rugby league team#Current squad. Doesn't pass WP:RU/N, because on an inernational level, he played for United States men's national rugby league team (Eagles), but the player is presumed notable if he played for United States men's national rugby union team (Hawks). Per WP:RU/N USA domestic leagues aren't notable. Doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV, I haven't found any secondary sources that relate directly to the subject. Tau Corvi ( talk) 00:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)- Not in the current squad so the redirect there would not be useful and only played one match at world cup, an alternative could be Colonial Cup (rugby league), but lack of significant coverage makes delete seem a reasonable option. EdwardUK ( talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Andrew Kneisly
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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American rugby player to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTSPERSON. My searches yielded only trivial mentions. A possible redirect is 2017 Rugby League World Cup squads#United States. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Rugby league, and Pennsylvania. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep 25 international appearances is quite notable plus I have been able to fine a few more sources
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4].
Mn1548 (
talk)
11:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- The first three sources are from USARL, which is the competition the subject played in and thus not independent. The fourth source is a blog post with a passing mention of the subject, and thus is not reliable OR in-depth. JTtheOG ( talk) 16:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, I've seen similarly irrelevant sports players with articles about them.
Maurnxiao (
talk)
19:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
-
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument to keep an article.
JTtheOG (
talk)
19:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- From that website:
This may be an argument that this article is not bad enough to be speedily deleted; but that does not mean it should be kept.
- So unless I misinterpreted which is possible, is there any rush to get this article removed? Why not improve it?
Maurnxiao (
talk)
19:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. In this case, "speedily delete" refers to
speedy deletion, a separate, much quicker procedure which does not need a discussion to delete a page. This rugby article is not eligible to be deleted through that medium. However, in my opinion, the subject has not received
significant coverage from reliable sources that cover him directly and in detail and thus might fail our
general notability guidelines, which is why I brought it to a discussion.
JTtheOG (
talk)
20:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I see, thank you. Maurnxiao ( talk) 20:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. In this case, "speedily delete" refers to
speedy deletion, a separate, much quicker procedure which does not need a discussion to delete a page. This rugby article is not eligible to be deleted through that medium. However, in my opinion, the subject has not received
significant coverage from reliable sources that cover him directly and in detail and thus might fail our
general notability guidelines, which is why I brought it to a discussion.
JTtheOG (
talk)
20:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- From that website:
-
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument to keep an article.
JTtheOG (
talk)
19:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 08:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to United States men nationa rugby league team#Current squad. Doesn't pass WP:RU/N, because on an inernational level, he played for United States men's national rugby league team (Eagles), but the player is presumed notable if he played for United States men's national rugby union team (Hawks). Per WP:RU/N USA domestic leagues aren't notable. Doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV, I haven't found any secondary sources that relate directly to the subject. Tau Corvi ( talk) 00:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)- Not in the current squad so the redirect there would not be useful and only played one match at world cup, an alternative could be Colonial Cup (rugby league), but lack of significant coverage makes delete seem a reasonable option. EdwardUK ( talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)