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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Ana Sinatashvili
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The subject, a Georgian women's footballer, has not received sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. All I found in my searches were passing mentions ( 2015, 2018, 2022, etc.) JTtheOG ( talk) 05:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Georgia (country). JTtheOG ( talk) 05:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete – Without enough information about her club career and with only a single appearance for the national team. Svartner ( talk) 13:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 15:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - There is more than meets the eye. As always in EE, it's good to look around in several languages. This one, in Russian, is a passing mention of her being called up for the youth team, and published by Sputnik (who I would not normally trust to get the time of day right, but I guess this is uncontroversial). Of course, this is the same kind of mention that we have already. But here comes surprise #1: here is an article + interview with several Georgian players, including Sinatashvili, who reported sexual harassment from their coach. In the link there's also the video from the original interview by RFE/RL's Georgian service on the issue. According to the article, both the coach and the club were found guilty (the former for sexual harassment of minors, the latter for failing to provide safe environment for them).
- Surprise #2 is that she appears to have taken part/played herself in How the Room Felt, a Georgian film/documentary on a group of female LGBTQ footballers (she is mentioned among the cast, for instance, here, here, or here). This does not count as coverage, I'd say, but there seems to be coverage about the film in Georgian [1], which I unfortunately do not read, and I would not like to rely on machine translation.
- Whether this is enough to save the article, I do not dare to judge (I have already gotten in trouble with guys from the football project for pointing out non-football related matters in articles about football players), but it might be worth the shot if someone has the necessary language skills (if needed I can help with pulling some stuff from the Russian article, just ping me). Ostalgia ( talk) 16:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - the sexual harassment should be mentioned at FC Martve (which I will do) but I don't see a case for Sinatashvili being individually notable off the back of that. With regards to How the Room Felt, that may well meet WP:NFILM but, if that were the case, that wouldn't automatically mean that all cast members are notable. I'm not seeing enough to pass WP:SPORTBASIC here. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Ana Sinatashvili
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The subject, a Georgian women's footballer, has not received sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. All I found in my searches were passing mentions ( 2015, 2018, 2022, etc.) JTtheOG ( talk) 05:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Georgia (country). JTtheOG ( talk) 05:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete – Without enough information about her club career and with only a single appearance for the national team. Svartner ( talk) 13:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 15:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - There is more than meets the eye. As always in EE, it's good to look around in several languages. This one, in Russian, is a passing mention of her being called up for the youth team, and published by Sputnik (who I would not normally trust to get the time of day right, but I guess this is uncontroversial). Of course, this is the same kind of mention that we have already. But here comes surprise #1: here is an article + interview with several Georgian players, including Sinatashvili, who reported sexual harassment from their coach. In the link there's also the video from the original interview by RFE/RL's Georgian service on the issue. According to the article, both the coach and the club were found guilty (the former for sexual harassment of minors, the latter for failing to provide safe environment for them).
- Surprise #2 is that she appears to have taken part/played herself in How the Room Felt, a Georgian film/documentary on a group of female LGBTQ footballers (she is mentioned among the cast, for instance, here, here, or here). This does not count as coverage, I'd say, but there seems to be coverage about the film in Georgian [1], which I unfortunately do not read, and I would not like to rely on machine translation.
- Whether this is enough to save the article, I do not dare to judge (I have already gotten in trouble with guys from the football project for pointing out non-football related matters in articles about football players), but it might be worth the shot if someone has the necessary language skills (if needed I can help with pulling some stuff from the Russian article, just ping me). Ostalgia ( talk) 16:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - the sexual harassment should be mentioned at FC Martve (which I will do) but I don't see a case for Sinatashvili being individually notable off the back of that. With regards to How the Room Felt, that may well meet WP:NFILM but, if that were the case, that wouldn't automatically mean that all cast members are notable. I'm not seeing enough to pass WP:SPORTBASIC here. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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