- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There seems to be no consensus here for batch deletion. Feel free to renominate individual articles. (If your going to nominate many of them, spread them out so its not flooding AfD all at once, and people have time to look for sources for each article, doing them too quickly can cause objections to mass nominations) Monty 845 17:30, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Amateurs Radio Algeriens
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A series of 83 articles on amateur radio societies: generic copy&paste content, tagged for notability since 2010.
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to International Amateur Radio Union. -- Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 15:11, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to International Amateur Radio Union, where basic descriptions can be added to the list there if anyone endeavors to do so. North America 1000 16:45, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- For Royal Union of Belgian Radio Amateurs, slight keep: the appellation "Royal" is awarded by the state and is not really common - it certainly indicates that the society has official recognition as a civic organization, rather than just being a non-notable band of enthusiasts. — Brigade Piron ( talk) 08:13, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- But "official recognition as a civic organization, rather than just being a non-notable band of enthusiasts" is actually true of all of them. The existence of a national representative organisation for amateur radio in member countries is an explicit requirement in terms of the rules of the International Telecommunications Union. Such organisations are required to exist by international law. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 17:23, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Strong keep - for all of them.
J 1982 (
talk) 11:30, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- User:J 1982, why? Renata ( talk) 20:45, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - I dont see any real argument to delete. This massive network of radio amateurs are notable, as they are presented in media, we have sources about them, and looking as a joint entity its even more important. radio amateurs were vital part of international struggle and most of then needs to be expanded, and not redirected... -- Ąnαșταη ( ταlκ) 12:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ User:Anastan What sources in the media? If you have access to independent reliable sources for these stubs please add them. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 16:23, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Each of these articles must be evaluated on their own merit and these should not be AfDed in a aggregate nomination. The premise of the nomination, that these topics are not notable because they are short and mass-produced, it not viable. Notability is assessed independent of article length or quality; it is the potential and availability of sources which is important. I have investigated Norsk Radio Relæ Liga, which represents one of the smallest counties. Said organization has an entry in a general-purpose encyclopedia ( [1]), the gold standard for notability. The organization is part of the official search and rescue capability of the country, collaborating closely with the Ministry of Justice. A news search found 171 entries printed news sources, many of which were about the organization. It is natural to believe similar amounts of information can be located for other organizations, emphasizing the need for an independent investigation of each case. Arsenikk (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure I searched French Google for sources and found one news article about the 50th anniversary of this organization. I added that. If anyone found one more source then this article would meet WP:GNG. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:33, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There seems to be no consensus here for batch deletion. Feel free to renominate individual articles. (If your going to nominate many of them, spread them out so its not flooding AfD all at once, and people have time to look for sources for each article, doing them too quickly can cause objections to mass nominations) Monty 845 17:30, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Amateurs Radio Algeriens
- Amateurs Radio Algeriens ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
A series of 83 articles on amateur radio societies: generic copy&paste content, tagged for notability since 2010.
For comparison purposes, articles not part of this nomination because they have more content (but still questionable notability) and are better suited for stand-alone discussions:
Articles NOT part of the nomination
|
|---|
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to International Amateur Radio Union. -- Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 15:11, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to International Amateur Radio Union, where basic descriptions can be added to the list there if anyone endeavors to do so. North America 1000 16:45, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- For Royal Union of Belgian Radio Amateurs, slight keep: the appellation "Royal" is awarded by the state and is not really common - it certainly indicates that the society has official recognition as a civic organization, rather than just being a non-notable band of enthusiasts. — Brigade Piron ( talk) 08:13, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- But "official recognition as a civic organization, rather than just being a non-notable band of enthusiasts" is actually true of all of them. The existence of a national representative organisation for amateur radio in member countries is an explicit requirement in terms of the rules of the International Telecommunications Union. Such organisations are required to exist by international law. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 17:23, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Strong keep - for all of them.
J 1982 (
talk) 11:30, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- User:J 1982, why? Renata ( talk) 20:45, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - I dont see any real argument to delete. This massive network of radio amateurs are notable, as they are presented in media, we have sources about them, and looking as a joint entity its even more important. radio amateurs were vital part of international struggle and most of then needs to be expanded, and not redirected... -- Ąnαșταη ( ταlκ) 12:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- @ User:Anastan What sources in the media? If you have access to independent reliable sources for these stubs please add them. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 16:23, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Each of these articles must be evaluated on their own merit and these should not be AfDed in a aggregate nomination. The premise of the nomination, that these topics are not notable because they are short and mass-produced, it not viable. Notability is assessed independent of article length or quality; it is the potential and availability of sources which is important. I have investigated Norsk Radio Relæ Liga, which represents one of the smallest counties. Said organization has an entry in a general-purpose encyclopedia ( [1]), the gold standard for notability. The organization is part of the official search and rescue capability of the country, collaborating closely with the Ministry of Justice. A news search found 171 entries printed news sources, many of which were about the organization. It is natural to believe similar amounts of information can be located for other organizations, emphasizing the need for an independent investigation of each case. Arsenikk (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure I searched French Google for sources and found one news article about the 50th anniversary of this organization. I added that. If anyone found one more source then this article would meet WP:GNG. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:33, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.