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The result was delete. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Alpha Class (2016 film)
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I don't think this film meets WP:GNG and WP:FILM. It is essentially an amateur film, a documentary of student life. There is a review on IMDb (not a reliable source) but it is provided by Danny McManus, the film's producer, editor, actor and film-maker. I can find no substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 09:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I could find absolutely no reliable sources for this film. Tillerh11 ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NF. BOVINEBOY 2008 21:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Late to the party, but non-notable and full of non-notability...how many redkikns is that? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap sh*t room 19:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per two articles about the film from an independent source, the State Press ( [1] [2]) another source, the Carolinian ( [3]), a review by a political expert, Hank Nuwer [4], and an entire fucking magazine feature about the film!!! editorEهեইдအ😎 21:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep as the significant coverage in multiple reliable sources identified above by Editor E shows that the film passes WP:GNG, thanks Atlantic306 ( talk) 17:56, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete on account of subject failing WP:NFILM. The cited sources are strictly college-related. The Carolinian is a student newspaper in UNCG; State Press is a student newspaper in ASU; the "Hazing Clearinghouse" is a personal blog written by a former Franklin professor; finally, the aforementioned "entire fucking feature" is in a college magazine. None of these sources are relevant in this context. Our article is not about a college or "college life" but about a film; perhaps it might be mentioned in articles related to student life. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - there's nothing inherently unreliable about student or university publications. The State Press may or may not be a bit too close, since that university is where this film was created. College Times doesn't seem to be a student-created publication, though it's intended for students and is distributed at several local campuses, including ASU. That said, I don't think the film is notable, but it's somewhat borderline. ansh 666 09:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- The bit about "nothing inherently unreliable" is one with which I fully agree. The assessment of student and university publications as being not enough for the subject at hand has been made in the context of the AfD: It should be expected that a film (whether fiction of non-fiction) with its main context being, say, scuba diving, would generate comments and interest in the scuba diving media, community, and websites. So, college media devotes space to a film on "college life." Nothing unexpected or unexceptional. To some, of course, as seen above, that may be enough for verifiable evidence of a film's notability. It's just that for me it isn't. - The Gnome ( talk) 11:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable. Doesn't meet WP:FILM. The presented sources don't meet WP:NFSOURCES, because these student papers don't have a reliable publication process, and are not considered authoritative in the field of film. — Newslinger talk 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom and The Gnome, who does a good job summing up the (lack of) reliable, secondary sources. Ifnord ( talk) 23:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Alpha Class (2016 film)
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I don't think this film meets WP:GNG and WP:FILM. It is essentially an amateur film, a documentary of student life. There is a review on IMDb (not a reliable source) but it is provided by Danny McManus, the film's producer, editor, actor and film-maker. I can find no substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 09:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I could find absolutely no reliable sources for this film. Tillerh11 ( talk) 18:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NF. BOVINEBOY 2008 21:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Late to the party, but non-notable and full of non-notability...how many redkikns is that? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap sh*t room 19:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per two articles about the film from an independent source, the State Press ( [1] [2]) another source, the Carolinian ( [3]), a review by a political expert, Hank Nuwer [4], and an entire fucking magazine feature about the film!!! editorEهեইдအ😎 21:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep as the significant coverage in multiple reliable sources identified above by Editor E shows that the film passes WP:GNG, thanks Atlantic306 ( talk) 17:56, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete on account of subject failing WP:NFILM. The cited sources are strictly college-related. The Carolinian is a student newspaper in UNCG; State Press is a student newspaper in ASU; the "Hazing Clearinghouse" is a personal blog written by a former Franklin professor; finally, the aforementioned "entire fucking feature" is in a college magazine. None of these sources are relevant in this context. Our article is not about a college or "college life" but about a film; perhaps it might be mentioned in articles related to student life. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - there's nothing inherently unreliable about student or university publications. The State Press may or may not be a bit too close, since that university is where this film was created. College Times doesn't seem to be a student-created publication, though it's intended for students and is distributed at several local campuses, including ASU. That said, I don't think the film is notable, but it's somewhat borderline. ansh 666 09:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- The bit about "nothing inherently unreliable" is one with which I fully agree. The assessment of student and university publications as being not enough for the subject at hand has been made in the context of the AfD: It should be expected that a film (whether fiction of non-fiction) with its main context being, say, scuba diving, would generate comments and interest in the scuba diving media, community, and websites. So, college media devotes space to a film on "college life." Nothing unexpected or unexceptional. To some, of course, as seen above, that may be enough for verifiable evidence of a film's notability. It's just that for me it isn't. - The Gnome ( talk) 11:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 10:11, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 10:11, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 16:37, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 16:37, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. Doesn't meet WP:FILM. The presented sources don't meet WP:NFSOURCES, because these student papers don't have a reliable publication process, and are not considered authoritative in the field of film. — Newslinger talk 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. — Newslinger talk 21:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and The Gnome, who does a good job summing up the (lack of) reliable, secondary sources. Ifnord ( talk) 23:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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