The result was delete. After disregarding Adamyouthold's disruptive walls of text, it's 1:3, all of which make reasonable arguments. Good enough for rough consensus to delete. Sandstein 21:40, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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perhaps i am missing something but it doesn't appear this band has ever or is currently notable. searching google and various music review sites gives me nothing, newspaper archives, books and magazines are the same. I don't see any major labels or charting. Fails NMUSIC. Praxidicae ( talk) 21:44, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello Praxidicae,
Please understand that Allflaws is an underground music act that have been releasing records since 2004 on Derelict State Records. I have just maintained this page and tried to keep to the rules and help build up my skill set on Wikipedia. Allflaws from my research definitely warranted a page and passed the criteria for notoriety and credentials. So I think it would be a shame if it was deleted. I would hope it could be modified instead and that would be a compromise. This page has been running for over ten years and I think the problem is that any articles have been put in External Links and not References. I have posted articles in the External Links section where you can see press that Allflaws has had for well over a decade. These articles should actually be in the References section as I said. They need to be moved there as that's where they should be located. That might be why you can't see any validation of notoriety. Please look at these articles in the External Links section for validation that this is a notable artist worthy of a page. I think these articles and the social media presence on Youtube, Facebook and Twitter will all reinforce this.
I am trying to find a way to get some of the links into references so you can see that this artist is credible. Please help with this? Please could you kindly remove the deletion tag and I will try moving all the articles from the External Links section into References section.
Thank you and sorry for any confusion with my article.
Here are some links to publications who have published Allflaws. Most of them are in the External Links section but need to be in References. Please have a look at them.
https://bbmlive.com/allflaws-music-video-gets-banned-from-youtube/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamyouthold ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
http://www.londonstreetartdesign.co.uk/new-rebel-spirit-video-from-allflaws/
http://www.aaamusic.co.uk/2012/03/16/allflaws-releasing-new-single/
http://www.supajam.com/news/story/Allflaws-Bristolian-darkness/
http://abortmag.com/2010/03/bristol-trip-hoppers-allflaws-release-new-video/
https://rdl.de/beitrag/forward-all-directions-24-september-mitternacht-allflaws-feature
https://www.reflectionsofdarkness.com/releases-news-165/12057-allflaws-release-qr-complexq-video/
https://exclaim.ca/music/article/allflaws-escaping_sanity/ - /info/en/?search=Exclaim!
https://www.famemagazine.co.uk/fame-recommends-allflaws/
http://regenmag.com/news/allflaws-release-new-ep/
http://thenervousbreakdown.com/gcurran/2010/11/21-questions-with-gabriel-curran/
http://flaneur.me.uk/06/new-album-from-allflaws-versus-the-soul/
http://www.prog-sphere.com/news/allflaws-release-new-album-versus-the-soul/
https://phonic.fm/2013/allflaws-announce-release-date-of-new-album-versus-the-soul/
https://afterdark.co/blog/reviews/allflaws-releasing-new-album/
https://www.nocturnal.asia/news/allflaws-set-to-release-acid-face-video/
https://www.hitzound.com/allflaws-cast-away/
http://alternation.eu/allflaws_-_black_box_here_after,id,2015,aktualnosci.html
http://www.mayhemderanged.com/e_fuse1007.pdf/
http://read.uberflip.com/i/88421-issue-44-2012/35?m4= - page 37
https://guestlist.net/newspapers - see issue 44 page 37
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Allflaws/74138/ - /info/en/?search=Sputnikmusic
Here are some links for external Links section
https://www.allflaws.com https://www.facebook.com/Allflaws https://twitter.com/ALLFLAWS http://derelictstaterecords.co.uk/artists.html
Hope this helps
Adam — Preceding
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I have put plenty of credible and reliable coverage above. Plus there was also old coverage which has since gone out of date which I can find again.
It just seems that this artist and this article will be unfairly thrown in the trash. For over ten years I have looked after this page and it now seems to be getting undermined, discredited and targeted. I've seen pages with far less coverage stay active. I just hope there is some justice here and someone takes time to look at the evidence. I can only hope. — Preceding
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I have now put around 19 publication links above who have press coverage on Allflaws. Hope this can help.
Hello Sparkism, I really am finding it hard to see how these articles are not credible and reliable and do not indicate notability. There are publications from Holland, Germany, USA, UK, Canada, Asia and are doing features and interviews with Allflaws. I have now put another link above amounting to 20 publications. Once again please look through these. Thanks
Skeletor3000 Thank you for clarifying that. I do appreciate you looking at the information and giving your opinion. I have also found this interview with US publication (The Nervous Breakdown) http://thenervousbreakdown.com/gcurran/2010/11/21-questions-with-gabriel-curran/ They Also have a Wikipedia page here /info/en/?search=The_Nervous_Breakdown_(magazine) Adamyouthold ( talk) 17:38, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
Praxidicae It just seems that you are being pedantic and looking for holes in this article. I think it has a enough coverage to justify being notable. I have seen pages with less coverage and they have no problems. Adamyouthold ( talk) 20:07, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
No problem Praxidicae, I am just baffled to why this page has been placed under scrutiny when it seems to meet the criteria. Adamyouthold ( talk) 20:30, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
Please look at this. I have also put it into the links above. It is a well known established magazine in London called the GuestList who have interviewed and featured many well known artists from around the world. https://guestlist.net/newspapers. In issue 44 page 37 Allflaws have album of the month http://read.uberflip.com/i/88421-issue-44-2012/35?m4= Adamyouthold ( talk) 11:57, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
I have also put this in the links above https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Allflaws/74138/ - /info/en/?search=Sputnikmusic Adamyouthold ( talk) 15:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
And this feature on German Radio https://rdl.de/beitrag/forward-all-directions-24-september-mitternacht-allflaws-feature - /info/en/?search=Radio_Dreyeckland Adamyouthold ( talk) 15:40, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if this is helpful. Here is some coverage in a Canadian publication Exclaim. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/allflaws-escaping_sanity/ - Here is their wiki page /info/en/?search=Exclaim Adamyouthold ( talk) 17:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
The result was delete. After disregarding Adamyouthold's disruptive walls of text, it's 1:3, all of which make reasonable arguments. Good enough for rough consensus to delete. Sandstein 21:40, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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perhaps i am missing something but it doesn't appear this band has ever or is currently notable. searching google and various music review sites gives me nothing, newspaper archives, books and magazines are the same. I don't see any major labels or charting. Fails NMUSIC. Praxidicae ( talk) 21:44, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello Praxidicae,
Please understand that Allflaws is an underground music act that have been releasing records since 2004 on Derelict State Records. I have just maintained this page and tried to keep to the rules and help build up my skill set on Wikipedia. Allflaws from my research definitely warranted a page and passed the criteria for notoriety and credentials. So I think it would be a shame if it was deleted. I would hope it could be modified instead and that would be a compromise. This page has been running for over ten years and I think the problem is that any articles have been put in External Links and not References. I have posted articles in the External Links section where you can see press that Allflaws has had for well over a decade. These articles should actually be in the References section as I said. They need to be moved there as that's where they should be located. That might be why you can't see any validation of notoriety. Please look at these articles in the External Links section for validation that this is a notable artist worthy of a page. I think these articles and the social media presence on Youtube, Facebook and Twitter will all reinforce this.
I am trying to find a way to get some of the links into references so you can see that this artist is credible. Please help with this? Please could you kindly remove the deletion tag and I will try moving all the articles from the External Links section into References section.
Thank you and sorry for any confusion with my article.
Here are some links to publications who have published Allflaws. Most of them are in the External Links section but need to be in References. Please have a look at them.
https://bbmlive.com/allflaws-music-video-gets-banned-from-youtube/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamyouthold ( talk • contribs) 16:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
http://www.londonstreetartdesign.co.uk/new-rebel-spirit-video-from-allflaws/
http://www.aaamusic.co.uk/2012/03/16/allflaws-releasing-new-single/
http://www.supajam.com/news/story/Allflaws-Bristolian-darkness/
http://abortmag.com/2010/03/bristol-trip-hoppers-allflaws-release-new-video/
https://rdl.de/beitrag/forward-all-directions-24-september-mitternacht-allflaws-feature
https://www.reflectionsofdarkness.com/releases-news-165/12057-allflaws-release-qr-complexq-video/
https://exclaim.ca/music/article/allflaws-escaping_sanity/ - /info/en/?search=Exclaim!
https://www.famemagazine.co.uk/fame-recommends-allflaws/
http://regenmag.com/news/allflaws-release-new-ep/
http://thenervousbreakdown.com/gcurran/2010/11/21-questions-with-gabriel-curran/
http://flaneur.me.uk/06/new-album-from-allflaws-versus-the-soul/
http://www.prog-sphere.com/news/allflaws-release-new-album-versus-the-soul/
https://phonic.fm/2013/allflaws-announce-release-date-of-new-album-versus-the-soul/
https://afterdark.co/blog/reviews/allflaws-releasing-new-album/
https://www.nocturnal.asia/news/allflaws-set-to-release-acid-face-video/
https://www.hitzound.com/allflaws-cast-away/
http://alternation.eu/allflaws_-_black_box_here_after,id,2015,aktualnosci.html
http://www.mayhemderanged.com/e_fuse1007.pdf/
http://read.uberflip.com/i/88421-issue-44-2012/35?m4= - page 37
https://guestlist.net/newspapers - see issue 44 page 37
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Allflaws/74138/ - /info/en/?search=Sputnikmusic
Here are some links for external Links section
https://www.allflaws.com https://www.facebook.com/Allflaws https://twitter.com/ALLFLAWS http://derelictstaterecords.co.uk/artists.html
Hope this helps
Adam — Preceding
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Adamyouthold (
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22:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
I have put plenty of credible and reliable coverage above. Plus there was also old coverage which has since gone out of date which I can find again.
It just seems that this artist and this article will be unfairly thrown in the trash. For over ten years I have looked after this page and it now seems to be getting undermined, discredited and targeted. I've seen pages with far less coverage stay active. I just hope there is some justice here and someone takes time to look at the evidence. I can only hope. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Adamyouthold (
talk •
contribs)
16:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
I have now put around 19 publication links above who have press coverage on Allflaws. Hope this can help.
Hello Sparkism, I really am finding it hard to see how these articles are not credible and reliable and do not indicate notability. There are publications from Holland, Germany, USA, UK, Canada, Asia and are doing features and interviews with Allflaws. I have now put another link above amounting to 20 publications. Once again please look through these. Thanks
Skeletor3000 Thank you for clarifying that. I do appreciate you looking at the information and giving your opinion. I have also found this interview with US publication (The Nervous Breakdown) http://thenervousbreakdown.com/gcurran/2010/11/21-questions-with-gabriel-curran/ They Also have a Wikipedia page here /info/en/?search=The_Nervous_Breakdown_(magazine) Adamyouthold ( talk) 17:38, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
Praxidicae It just seems that you are being pedantic and looking for holes in this article. I think it has a enough coverage to justify being notable. I have seen pages with less coverage and they have no problems. Adamyouthold ( talk) 20:07, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
No problem Praxidicae, I am just baffled to why this page has been placed under scrutiny when it seems to meet the criteria. Adamyouthold ( talk) 20:30, 44 January 2020 (UTC)
Please look at this. I have also put it into the links above. It is a well known established magazine in London called the GuestList who have interviewed and featured many well known artists from around the world. https://guestlist.net/newspapers. In issue 44 page 37 Allflaws have album of the month http://read.uberflip.com/i/88421-issue-44-2012/35?m4= Adamyouthold ( talk) 11:57, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
I have also put this in the links above https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Allflaws/74138/ - /info/en/?search=Sputnikmusic Adamyouthold ( talk) 15:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
And this feature on German Radio https://rdl.de/beitrag/forward-all-directions-24-september-mitternacht-allflaws-feature - /info/en/?search=Radio_Dreyeckland Adamyouthold ( talk) 15:40, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if this is helpful. Here is some coverage in a Canadian publication Exclaim. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/allflaws-escaping_sanity/ - Here is their wiki page /info/en/?search=Exclaim Adamyouthold ( talk) 17:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)