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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 21:29, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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No indication of notability. Searches do not turn up anything which shows they pass WP:GNG, and nothing in the article suggests they pass WP:MUSICBIO. Onel5969 TT me 02:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - Subject does not meet general notability requirements. Meatsgains( talk) 02:17, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Does not pass GNG or MUSICBIO. MarnetteD| Talk 03:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Agreed with the other editors. Does not pass GNG at all. Globe2trotter ( talk) 18:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete As per above reasons. Freikorp ( talk) 08:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep The artist is the subject of numerous non-trival published works, has released at least two albums under his own name, and three others as one half of the duo Alex & Nilusha. He has toured Australia and internationally both as a solo artist and as a member of numerous ensembles. Consequently passes WP:MUSICBIO. The article certainly has problems: I've put a WP:COI template on it: it suffers from both non-neutral tone and original research. Whole sections are difficult to read, comprising of WP:Laundry lists. These are reasons to carefully edit the article but not to delete it. If this passes AfD I will continue to edit it and attempt to get it into a more acceptable form. However, I might need help if the article's creator continues disruptive editing. shaidar cuebiyar ( talk) 09:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - The keep vote by User:Shaidar cuebiyar above makes valid points, but the "numerous non-trival published works" are primarily about things outside of Pertout's individual works, such as events in which he was a participant, or his later act Alex & Nilusha which has its own article. As an individual, almost all available sources mention him peripherally as being present at a recording or concert. Meanwhile, some apparently useful sources already in the article do not mention him at all, such as "La Nueva Canción: The New Song Movement in South America" (currently footnote #3) which actually describes a larger scene that he may or may not fit into. I can find no reliable and non-trivial reviews for his own albums except for a couple about his 1993 album. He has a lot of listings, but those sources are almost never about him in a fashion that bestows independent notability. He's an accomplished journeyman who deserves to be mentioned in other people's articles, but there is not enough for an article about him specifically. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 18:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 21:29, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- Alex Pertout ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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No indication of notability. Searches do not turn up anything which shows they pass WP:GNG, and nothing in the article suggests they pass WP:MUSICBIO. Onel5969 TT me 02:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 02:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Subject does not meet general notability requirements. Meatsgains( talk) 02:17, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Does not pass GNG or MUSICBIO. MarnetteD| Talk 03:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Agreed with the other editors. Does not pass GNG at all. Globe2trotter ( talk) 18:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete As per above reasons. Freikorp ( talk) 08:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost ( talk) 03:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep The artist is the subject of numerous non-trival published works, has released at least two albums under his own name, and three others as one half of the duo Alex & Nilusha. He has toured Australia and internationally both as a solo artist and as a member of numerous ensembles. Consequently passes WP:MUSICBIO. The article certainly has problems: I've put a WP:COI template on it: it suffers from both non-neutral tone and original research. Whole sections are difficult to read, comprising of WP:Laundry lists. These are reasons to carefully edit the article but not to delete it. If this passes AfD I will continue to edit it and attempt to get it into a more acceptable form. However, I might need help if the article's creator continues disruptive editing. shaidar cuebiyar ( talk) 09:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - The keep vote by User:Shaidar cuebiyar above makes valid points, but the "numerous non-trival published works" are primarily about things outside of Pertout's individual works, such as events in which he was a participant, or his later act Alex & Nilusha which has its own article. As an individual, almost all available sources mention him peripherally as being present at a recording or concert. Meanwhile, some apparently useful sources already in the article do not mention him at all, such as "La Nueva Canción: The New Song Movement in South America" (currently footnote #3) which actually describes a larger scene that he may or may not fit into. I can find no reliable and non-trivial reviews for his own albums except for a couple about his 1993 album. He has a lot of listings, but those sources are almost never about him in a fashion that bestows independent notability. He's an accomplished journeyman who deserves to be mentioned in other people's articles, but there is not enough for an article about him specifically. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 18:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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